Photo's of Cartridge box

[Viking Bob]

I am after photos or images of the British army Cartridge box used by The Guards during the Napoleonic war's. I have no reference for the back of the box or the bottom. I need details of the buckles on the bottom and where the buff belt attaches to the rear of the box.
I have an idea it might be the same as ACW cartridge boxes.
Image 1 is the bottom of ACW box
Image 2 bottom of a Rifles box 1808
Image 3 Back of a Rifles box 1850s
Image 4 ACW box discont the two slides that fit onto a belt.


Perplexed

 

[billyturnip]

Is this any use Bob?
http://www.militaryheritage.com/cartridgepouch2.htm

 

[Viking Bob]

Thanks Roger, I think this is a Cartridge box issued in 1804 for service abroad, not the 1808 pattern. These have "tins" for keeping the rounds separate.
Appreciated anyway Mate.

 

[billyturnip]

Righto, I'll keep looking and learning as I go.

 

[Viking Bob]

H
Roger,
this is an image I found on the internet, its from the Daily Telegraph. the box on the left, it also has the wooden insert

 

[billyturnip]

I've seen pictures of one somewhere Bob, just can't remember where.

 

[Viking Bob]

I have just found this one Roger, It has the tins and the wooden block. It would appear to be British Army of the period 1815. I will leave it a while, see what else turns up.

 

[billyturnip]

I've looked through a heap of books here Bob and no luck so far.

 

[Viking Bob]

Thank you for your time, Roger, appreciated.
I also have some books on the period but not showing what I want.
Seen a lot too.
Cheers mate I have one more avenue to try.

 

[billyturnip]

You could try emailing these fella's,
http://www.coldstreamguards1815.org.uk/index.php

 

[Viking Bob]

Thanks Roger

 

[tock24]

As a Napoleonic Reenactor, I would go with a combination of the photo's shown, all of which we used - photo CB 6 shows the straps crossing behind and then buckling. CB 2 shows the brass 'button' with a strap. Strap had a hole to go over the button and secure the flap. CB 8 shows the wooden block drilled for cartridges [we had 4 rows of 6 holes on each side - turn it over when one side done!] Tin tray carried odds and ends - rag, spare flint or 2, worm, spare vent prick etc. Would have thought that the Guards were similar - perhaps a unit badge on the outside of the flap? We covered Canadian Militia 1812 - 1814, but were issued standard govt equipment.....
BR
Ian

 

[Viking Bob]

Ian,
Thank you for the reply, I used to re enact the American civil war and the Cartridge box is similar, fixes to the shoulder belt in the same way. Just wondered if the Guards used a different pattern box (seeing that they were the Kings troops).
It was nice to get it cleared up.
Thanks again

 

[martin tabony]

Have you looked at " Soldier' Accoutrements" by Pierre Turner. It has two pouches from 1805.

Martin

 

[Viking Bob]

Hi Martin,
Richie kindly sent me a copy,
Regards