'Polish winged hussar' bust from Young..

[Rocco82]

Hi. Hope this post is ok in here.
I was wondering if anyone here had done this piece before from Young Miniatures?..




Iirc all the pieces of the bust are a peach colour yet the two 'stands' that hold all of the feathers is grey resin. Possibly a mish mash of two different runs and the grey one is older hence why they don't want to fit?

I mean it's not even close. As you can hopefully make out in the photos.




I can't get them in even a little bit whilst glue would take hold.
I've already snapped one dry fitting that theory even although I was being very careful.

I've pretty much finished the rest of the bust and this looks like one helluva roadblock!

Are the feather stems even supposed to slot in or are the holes just markers and I cut the feathers flush?
Looking at the boxart the are flush but I just that doesn't seem right.

Can anyone shed some light or have any advice on where to go from ere?

 

[arj]

My approach would be to cut the resin feather stems to appear flush at point of contact.
Then drill into the stems and glue fine wire, which could then slot into similar holes drilled into the wings. (It's probably better to fill the existing holes in the wings and then drill for the wires).
That way the brittleness of the fragile feather stems would be overcome.
I know it's a pain-in-ass process, but probably worth it in the long run.

Cheers,
Andrew

P.S. You could also then paint the feathers and wings separately and fit together when ready.

 

[Rocco82]

My approach would be to cut the resin feather stems to appear flush at point of contact.
Then drill into the stems and glue fine wire, which could then slot into similar holes drilled into the wings. (It's probably better to fill the existing holes in the wings and then drill for the wires).
That way the brittleness of the fragile feather stems would be overcome.
I know it's a pain-in-ass process, but probably worth it in the long run.

Cheers,
Andrew

P.S. You could also then paint the feathers and wings separately and fit together when ready.

Hi. Thanks. But if I follow you correctly I've no chance of drilling into the feather stems.
They are like. 2mm diameter. Not much area to drill into and like I say really fragile so I guess things could get really messy trying to clamp or hold them in place whilst I drill.

Good idea thanks but I don't have that in me I don't think lol

 

[Helm]

Hi. Thanks. But if I follow you correctly I've no chance of drilling into the feather stems.
They are like. 2mm diameter. Not much area to drill into and like I say really fragile so I guess things could get really messy trying to clamp or hold them in place whilst I drill.

Good idea thanks but I don't have that in me I don't think lol

Drill the mounts out and fill with putty, slide the feathers in and shape to suit a bit of a pain I agree, but possibly your best bet. You can get micro drills very cheap on eBay etc.

 

[arj]

Hi. Thanks. But if I follow you correctly I've no chance of drilling into the feather stems.
They are like. 2mm diameter. Not much area to drill into and like I say really fragile so I guess things could get really messy trying to clamp or hold them in place whilst I drill.

Good idea thanks but I don't have that in me I don't think lol

You'd be surprised what you can achieve Colin.
Antics have very good drill sets at a reasonsble price:-
https://anticsonline.uk/Product/Expo-11520-HSS-Drill-Bit-Set-20pc-03mm---16mm_11520_N10910
They also have sets of various very thin wires:-
https://anticsonline.uk/Category/Nickel-Silver-Rod_N446
Then all you need is a couple of pin vices. One to hold a needle or pin to make the initial location hole, before drilling. It's easy to hold the item in one hand and gently drill with the other. It may be slow, but accurate. Just make sure you're going in straight. At the slow speed of hand drilling, checking is easy.
However, it's entirely up to you how you approach this, but that's my two-penneth.

Cheers,
Andrew

 

[VerSacrum]

Looks like a rather difficult piece! Good luck

 

[Nap]

Hi there

Not the easiest of things to do , my thoughts are to file down the feather ends and slightly drill more then figment points .....yes it will be a pain but worth the effort

You could contact Young’s to see if they can help with better casting on the wings

Andrew has some good ideas as well

Looking at pic from P ‘n P seems the feathers were slightly cut to give more surface but I’d still say pin !

Here’s a link to a MJ Miniatures review of a similar item ...in that the feathers were cast on !....some useful pics as well

https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/polish-winged-hussar-from-mj-miniatures.77113/

Look forward to seeing more on this

Nap

 

[Rocco82]

Drill the mounts out and fill with putty, slide the feathers in and shape to suit a bit of a pain I agree, but possibly your best bet. You can get micro drills very cheap on eBay etc.

This is a good idea Helm. If all else fails I can do this approach. I'd be more confident doing this lol. I'll have an attempt and wire perhaps first.
Thanks.

You'd be surprised what you can achieve Colin.
Antics have very good drill sets at a reasonsble price:-
https://anticsonline.uk/Product/Expo-11520-HSS-Drill-Bit-Set-20pc-03mm---16mm_11520_N10910
They also have sets of various very thin wires:-
https://anticsonline.uk/Category/Nickel-Silver-Rod_N446
Then all you need is a couple of pin vices. One to hold a needle or pin to make the initial location hole, before drilling. It's easy to hold the item in one hand and gently drill with the other. It may be slow, but accurate. Just make sure you're going in straight. At the slow speed of hand drilling, checking is easy.
However, it's entirely up to you how you approach this, but that's my two-penneth.

Cheers,
Andrew

Thanks Andrew
Much appreciated. And thanks for the links. I have one of those exact sets of fine drill bits. But never did get round to getting a drill for them/ pin vice. Although I'm sure my mate has one I could probably get to give this a go.

I'll be up at the paint room soon and I'll per ha give it a go and see how I get on. All I can do is attempt it.
Cheers.




Ah yes mate I've seen that model before but didn't realise they were cast on no. That's very nice.

Sanding /filing down the edges I hadn't thought about to be honest. I don't have them here at time of typing but I think they are just too brittle.
That and the holes on the wings for the feathers are all various sizes.
Bit disappointing tbh but a rarity I'm sure.

I think I will contact them. In a way just out of curiosity too . A shame really the rest was coming along quite nicely.
But I'll get there. A bit of an Injury to my foot so have a couple of days off work now with some extra time to sort him out!

Hi there

Not the easiest of things to do , my thoughts are to file down the feather ends and slightly drill more then figment points .....yes it will be a pain but worth the effort

You could contact Young’s to see if they can help with better casting on the wings

Andrew has some good ideas as well

Looking at pic from P ‘n P seems the feathers were slightly cut to give more surface but I’d still say pin !

Here’s a link to a MJ Miniatures review of a similar item ...in that the feathers were cast on !....some useful pics as well

https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/polish-winged-hussar-from-mj-miniatures.77113/

Look forward to seeing more on this

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Ah yes mate I've seen that model before but didn't realise they were cast on. That's very nice yes.

Sanding /filing down the edges I hadn't thought about to be honest. I don't have the feathers here at time of typing but I think they are just too brittle.
That and the holes on the wings for the feathers are all various sizes.
Bit disappointing tbh but a rarity I'm sure.

I think I will contact them. In a way, just out of curiosity too . A shame really as the rest is coming along quite nicely.
But I'll get there. Picked up a bit of an Injury to my foot so I now have a couple of days off work now with some extra time to sort him out thankfully.

 

[Rocco82]

Looks like a rather difficult piece! Good luck

It is. Some regrets lol.
But hopefully worth it all when he's done.

The leopard pelt he's wearing my first attempt at that was horrible. 2nd I'm more happy with. So I was really happy to move on, then bam. Ran into this now.

It's been a tricky piece alright!

 

[Rocco82]

Thanks again all but I got them stuck on! In my haste I forgot to measure and mark the feather points when I already had a few stuck down. I wasn't going back at that point lol. So each wing is short a couple of feathers each side . (a few left over will be handy to have for busts etc I guess!)

I just trimmed at the edges and with a hope and a wish and a pray stuck them on with superglue. Stuff I have called CT1. It's nice stuff.
Managed to get just enough surface area for a bond after all. Applying a droplet with a toothpick and placing it on.
I then gave them a heavy prime, targeted esp at the joins. Then a spray of satin varnish just for the hell of it.
The feathers I airbrushed and messed up a bit to start with so there's a couple of layers of light paint holding them in place now too.

Pretty strong so far and one even survived an accidental drop!

 

[Helm]

Nice one
Steve

 

[arj]

Nicely done Colin.
That looks excellent.

Cheers,
Andrew

 

[Nap]

Hi Colin

Well done for the result , looks really good ...look forward to seeing both in place

Following with interest ...do share the updates

Have fun @ the bench

Nap

 

[NigelR]

Nice work, that is looking excellent.

 

[MalcC]

You've set yourself a challenge there, which I'm sure you'll handle perfectly and show us a stunning piece of work.

Malc

 

[Rocco82]

Thanks all much appreciated!

He's complete. Squeezed out all of the finishing touches today!

 

[Nap]

Thanks all much appreciated!

He's complete. Squeezed out all of the finishing touches today!

final Pics in the Completed Forum https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/polish-winged-hussar-young-miniatures-1-10.661466/

Nap