Private - 1st Battalion Gordon Highlanders, Le Cateau 1914
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Tony Barton
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This is a really nice figure.
I hate to be a pedant, but if this is supposed to represent a 1st Battalion soldier in 1914, he would have a moustache : they were regulation for the Regular soldiers in the BEF of 1914.
I hate to be a pedant, but if this is supposed to represent a 1st Battalion soldier in 1914, he would have a moustache : they were regulation for the Regular soldiers in the BEF of 1914.
Felduniform
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Hi Tony,
Why are there so many pictures about soldiers in 1914 without a moustache?
Bye Günther
Why are there so many pictures about soldiers in 1914 without a moustache?
Bye Günther
Dan Morton
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"Regulation moustache"? Don't think so. Lots of soldiers wore them, but...
Two pics of what I think are the Grenadier Guards taken in 1914. The fellow on the left of the parade line appears to be trying hard, but the rest look bare-lipped to me. In the group pic, three or four are bare-lipped.
Not trying to start an argument over something so trivial, just trying to offer some photographic evidence.
All the best,
Dan
Two pics of what I think are the Grenadier Guards taken in 1914. The fellow on the left of the parade line appears to be trying hard, but the rest look bare-lipped to me. In the group pic, three or four are bare-lipped.
Not trying to start an argument over something so trivial, just trying to offer some photographic evidence.
All the best,
Dan
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Tony Barton
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Dan , thanks for those nice pics. The second is definitely Grenadiers, but the first is I think not , despite the caption. The cap-badge looks more like the Coldstream.
Given their apparent height, they look like Guardsmen .
The Regulation certainly existed :
KR amended to 1 Aug 1914. para.1696 applying to all ranks, an exact quote:
"The hair of the head will be kept short. The chin and under lip will be shaved, but not the upper lip. Whiskers, if worn, will be of moderate length. "
It was finally rescinded thus , after the impossibility of imposing the rule on all the hundres of thousands of clean-shaven volunteers :~
[FONT="]As reported in The Times of 7th October 1916, common sense eventually prevailed and the regulation was revised:-[/FONT]
[FONT="]"An Army order issued last night directs that in paragraph I.696 of the King's Regulations the words "but not upper lip" shall be deleted. The paragraph originally read:- "The hair of the head will be kept short. the chin and under lip will be shaved, but not the upper lip. Whiskers, if worn, will be of moderate length.
So it looks like one of those Rules more honoured in the breach than the observance.
I should have written my original point better , to suggest that moustaches were somehow more typical of the "Old Contemptibles ".
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Given their apparent height, they look like Guardsmen .
The Regulation certainly existed :
KR amended to 1 Aug 1914. para.1696 applying to all ranks, an exact quote:
"The hair of the head will be kept short. The chin and under lip will be shaved, but not the upper lip. Whiskers, if worn, will be of moderate length. "
It was finally rescinded thus , after the impossibility of imposing the rule on all the hundres of thousands of clean-shaven volunteers :~
[FONT="]As reported in The Times of 7th October 1916, common sense eventually prevailed and the regulation was revised:-[/FONT]
[FONT="]"An Army order issued last night directs that in paragraph I.696 of the King's Regulations the words "but not upper lip" shall be deleted. The paragraph originally read:- "The hair of the head will be kept short. the chin and under lip will be shaved, but not the upper lip. Whiskers, if worn, will be of moderate length.
So it looks like one of those Rules more honoured in the breach than the observance.
I should have written my original point better , to suggest that moustaches were somehow more typical of the "Old Contemptibles ".
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Dan Morton
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Tony - Thanks for the clarification! A great many of the youthful volunteers probably couldn't have grown much more than upper lip lint and fuzz. :awesome:
All the best,
Dan
All the best,
Dan
I got one of these today moustache or not it's a great little sculpt. Dan's Grenadiers are grenadiers, as you can tell in this magnified image.
Carl.
Carl.
Felduniform
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Hi Dan,
thanks for the nice pictures.
Greetings, Günther
thanks for the nice pictures.
Greetings, Günther
