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Adrian,
Cool mini or not is a great fantasy/game website and also has a lot of SBS's and some of the PP people post on the coolmini site also and do SBS's.

http://www.coolminiornot.com/

I find it an interesting site and a deviation from the norm:ROFLMAO:
Hope that this will help you with ideas. Another site is Massive Voodoo

http://massivevoodoo.blogspot.com/

They have a massive SBS section on nearly anything on Mini's
I sometimes use this site to remember things I have forgotten/or dont remember:LOL:
Cheers
John

Thanks for that John. Joining those sites may actually be the better option if learning is the goal, I am starting to think....

Cheers,
Adrian
 
I've actually been directed here by a painter who I've met through a group on Facebook. Though I'll admit, I only really post on two groups, my page, and my profile. Though through friends I've ended up talking and taking part in discussions with many who I consider to be amazingly talented. But I've also discovered painters I've ever heard of and have learned things I'd never thought of attempting (I'm from a background of GW but please don't stone me. I'm changing my ways and breaking bad habits).

I'm not saying you have to use Facebook to get noticed, but it's a way to widen your knowledge about miniature painting, brands, sculptors, and more. And the moment one of those you look up to compliments your work just makes you want to push yourself further.

Hi Forté,

Agreed, and rest assured I do plenty of surfing for inspiration, tips and advice. I recognise the value of that. Most valuable I find direct discussion and interaction, as possible here on PF. This has taught me a lot. and it can be fun as well.
Anyway, thanks for contributing your views. Hope to see you around PF!

Cheers,
Adrian
 
Thanks for your inputs guys.

It seems to me that access to P&P has been deliberately limited, with the goal to keep quality high. Getting in requires an invitation, and getting an invitation requires you to be noticed, preferrably via own websites, Facebook and other social media.

I am slowly starting to like less the idea behind P&P...a deliberately created exclusive atmosphere, requiring much self-promotion to get in. The exclusive is OK as such, I see that point, but I really dislike the need to invest in "look-at-me-look-at-me activities" to get noticed. Just takes away already precious painting time.

I am still interested to become a member and would accept an invitation, but if my lack of lobbying keeps me out, no sleep lost.

BTW I have a vBench at the great PF....is that not enough!?! :)

Cheers,
Adrian
 
Just use it as inspiration and motivation for your own work and rely on those who you feel are honest about how you are progressing for feedback. As Alfonso 'Banshee' Giraldes often says, paint for yourself (but also post where ever you do because you don't know who you may also inspire).
 
Putty and Paint . I suppose one could refer to it as the Gods
800px-Guard_Grenadier_at_Eylau.jpg This lot were difficult to get into also . and only allowed women from about 35 to 40
 
Putty and Paint is a neat site, though it's really just an online gallery for figures... so you can probably learn just as much from visiting the site as you would as an actual member. I guess as a member you can leave comments and ask questions, though it can be hit or miss on whether you'll actually get any answers. I'll occasionally ask about how something was done and it isn't all that often I get a response.

As for getting a membership, it used to be that members would periodically get invite codes. I've been checking, but it's been a long time since I've gotten one to give out. As someone else mentioned, perhaps only the moderators are getting them now. In their FAQ it said they're doing this to control how quickly the site grows.

If your goal is to learn from fantasy painters, I think John had some good advice. Massive Voodoo is a great source for tutorials and inspiration. And I would second the Cool Mini or Not recommendation. They've got an impressive gallery, but I think the real reason to go their site is their forum. Check out the Works in Progress section. There are some really great artists there and the forum is where you can see what they're doing, how they're doing it, and ask them questions. It's similar to PlanetFigure, however people tend to create a single work in progress thread and continue to post new projects to it (whereas at PF people usually create a new thread for each new figure). I like it as it makes it easier to follow certain artists. While there are a lot of amazing painters posting in the gallery, there's a smaller number who are active on the forums. In my opinion, some of the best who are frequently on the forums are:
Sproket (David Soper)
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?54571-Sproket-s-WIP/page54
Skelettet S (Stefan Johnsson)
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?37611-SkelettetS-wip/page191
Megazord_man
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums...-Mega-s-menagerie-of-miniature-madness/page49

You'll find a lot of threads there with people ranging from novice to pro. I'm there too and, despite it being a fantasy heavy site, post a lot of my historical figures. I think a lot of people over there would like to see your work as well.
 
Just use it as inspiration and motivation for your own work and rely on those who you feel are honest about how you are progressing for feedback. As Alfonso 'Banshee' Giraldes often says, paint for yourself (but also post where ever you do because you don't know who you may also inspire).

Agree, we should be painting for ourselves. It's nice to share, join in competitions, etc., but ultimately it's about having an enjoyable time away from normal life's responsibilities and chores.

Cheers
Adrian
 
Putty and Paint . I suppose one could refer to it as the Gods
View attachment 226860 This lot were difficult to get into also . and only allowed women from about 35 to 40

I know they like the image of P&P representing the best of the best, but I don't think that is totally accurate anymore. Yes, the average level is very high, but the quality bandwidth, so to speak, is rather wide. My view is this resulted from a time of high availability of invites, when many simply invited their close buddies, whatever their painting level. I believe this is the reason the invite policy was changed, making invites much rarer.

Cheers
 
Putty and Paint is a neat site, though it's really just an online gallery for figures... so you can probably learn just as much from visiting the site as you would as an actual member. I guess as a member you can leave comments and ask questions, though it can be hit or miss on whether you'll actually get any answers. I'll occasionally ask about how something was done and it isn't all that often I get a response.

As for getting a membership, it used to be that members would periodically get invite codes. I've been checking, but it's been a long time since I've gotten one to give out. As someone else mentioned, perhaps only the moderators are getting them now. In their FAQ it said they're doing this to control how quickly the site grows.

If your goal is to learn from fantasy painters, I think John had some good advice. Massive Voodoo is a great source for tutorials and inspiration. And I would second the Cool Mini or Not recommendation. They've got an impressive gallery, but I think the real reason to go their site is their forum. Check out the Works in Progress section. There are some really great artists there and the forum is where you can see what they're doing, how they're doing it, and ask them questions. It's similar to PlanetFigure, however people tend to create a single work in progress thread and continue to post new projects to it (whereas at PF people usually create a new thread for each new figure). I like it as it makes it easier to follow certain artists. While there are a lot of amazing painters posting in the gallery, there's a smaller number who are active on the forums. In my opinion, some of the best who are frequently on the forums are:
Sproket (David Soper)
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?54571-Sproket-s-WIP/page54
Skelettet S (Stefan Johnsson)
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums/showthread.php?37611-SkelettetS-wip/page191
Megazord_man
http://www.coolminiornot.com/forums...-Mega-s-menagerie-of-miniature-madness/page49

You'll find a lot of threads there with people ranging from novice to pro. I'm there too and, despite it being a fantasy heavy site, post a lot of my historical figures. I think a lot of people over there would like to see your work as well.

Thanks for sharing your view Bailey.
I did have a look at the sites you metion and they indeed look useful. I might sign up there as well.
Overall I think PF is providing a nice mix , in a nice format, for painters mainly interested in hisorical figures.

Cheers,
Adrian
 
Adrian
Having looked at some of the other forum type sites mentioned in this thread , just about everything in them is covered here on PF
and in a more user friendly way , PF is an easy site to negotiate in comparison and as already mentioned PP and virtual museum are more a picture book and show case thing .
The latter being for me a better source of historical modelling ref ,with PP leaning very much to fantasy .
What I do notice about PP is that everyone on it proposes to be a commercial artist and painting figures is their main source of income ; so is more a platform for selling their works and are encouraged to only show the best they can do .

Ron
 
Agree, we should be painting for ourselves. It's nice to share, join in competitions, etc., but ultimately it's about having an enjoyable time away from normal life's responsibilities and chores.

Cheers
Adrian
Exactly. Nothing feels better than comparing your own collection and seeing how you've improved and grown.
 
Having spent many hours browsing and downloading from the net, creating a library of information I've come to the conclusion that the only way to improve is to just get the brushes out and do it.......computers, the internet, mobile phones, forums etc, etc are a fabulous source if you have a question.............but such a huge consumer of our time because the amount of info out there is just endless. P played a musical instrument in my early days quite badly I think. now I sometimes go on youtube and watch someone play.............3 hours later I realise that's another evening gone and no painting done! The same happens with forums.

Is it just me or do we all spend too much time on the computer or mobile?

Claude
 
Having spent many hours browsing and downloading from the net, creating a library of information I've come to the conclusion that the only way to improve is to just get the brushes out and do it.......computers, the internet, mobile phones, forums etc, etc are a fabulous source if you have a question.............but such a huge consumer of our time because the amount of info out there is just endless. P played a musical instrument in my early days quite badly I think. now I sometimes go on youtube and watch someone play.............3 hours later I realise that's another evening gone and no painting done! The same happens with forums.

Is it just me or do we all spend too much time on the computer or mobile?

Claude

chipmunk_on_computer.jpg I will check-out your argument.

Mark.
 
Having spent many hours browsing and downloading from the net, creating a library of information I've come to the conclusion that the only way to improve is to just get the brushes out and do it.......computers, the internet, mobile phones, forums etc, etc are a fabulous source if you have a question.............but such a huge consumer of our time because the amount of info out there is just endless. P played a musical instrument in my early days quite badly I think. now I sometimes go on youtube and watch someone play.............3 hours later I realise that's another evening gone and no painting done! The same happens with forums.

Is it just me or do we all spend too much time on the computer or mobile?

Claude

Well, yes and no, in my case at least.

I share your feeling and realize I could have painted quite a few figures in the time I have spent on the web.

However, most of my surfing is in 'lost moments' of say 15 to 30 min, when I need a break from something. Time and mood in which I would not do much painting.
And then I've learned a lot from all that surfing...so I may paint less, but I like the results more.

Maybe you're just looking at the wrong websites Claude... :-D

Fully agree about getting the brushes out. There's no learning without doing.

Cheers,
Adrian
 
Well, yes and no, in my case at least.

I share your feeling and realize I could have painted quite a few figures in the time I have spent on the web.

However, most of my surfing is in 'lost moments' of say 15 to 30 min, when I need a break from something. Time and mood in which I would not do much painting.
And then I've learned a lot from all that surfing...so I may paint less, but I like the results more.

Maybe you're just looking at the wrong websites Claude... :-D

Fully agree about getting the brushes out. There's no learning without doing.

Cheers,
Adrian

Maybe you're just looking at the wrong websites Claude... :-D :facepalm: :D
 
I was once invited to be at the core secret six of the uk stage magicians society 'the Magic Circle'.
to this day I still don't know who the other 5 are.
:D
 
Prestitigitations and felicatations be upon you John !

I have been collecting 'packs' of cards since I was a child.
My Grandfather used to do summer outdoor magic shows in the parks.
I was the boy chosen to put my head in the guillotine to the question and reply:-

"Now little boy, turn and face the audience and tell them we have never met before today have we"?

" No Grandad".

Loved it, it hooked me and I've been a slave to the magic of cards and close up ever since.

Before he passed away and whilst afflicted by Altzheimer's, my Grandad told me he introduced me to Robert Harbin once, but I can't say I remember, and don't even know if it was true.

i hope you are still practicing John, I still fumble and bumble.

I would love to know what happened to his travel and stage box.

All the best.
Paul.
 
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