question on printers ink?

[SPrimeau]

I am about to use printers ink for the first time. Can this stuff be mixed with oils and still dry? I know it has to be mixed with other things to get it to dry.
What other things can you mix into it so it will dry? Alone it would stay wet forever, right?
Scott

 

[sonnenteich]

Hello Scott,

you can mix Printers Ink with oils and it will dry.
My personal medum for Printers Ink are humbrol enamels. If you have the right mixture it will dry in less than 2 hours.

If you have any other questions about Printers Ink feel free to ask.
Regards
Frank

 

[brian]

Hi Scott
I personally use Liquin to mix with the printers ink,but i've bought printers ink at a show once that will dry on it's own,but i don't know who make it.It tends to skin over when it's in the bottle and it's handy stuff to have as it tends to dry duller than the other type.
Hopefully somebody out there will be able to let us know why there is a difference between printers ink.
Brian

 

[Arminous]

HI all!

Scott,printer inks are based on white spirit.Every paint that is also based on white spirit(enamels,oils) can be mixed with them and will suceessfully dry together.

Printer inks can be used alone and they will dry to level.Even if mixed with other paint,printer inks won't absolutely dry!To be sure that even if you touch it the paint will remain on the figure mix them with enamels and after 24 hours overcoat it with an acrylic varnish.

BTW,you'll love this metalic paints!They are hard to work with,but the result is the best!


Go for it and if you face any problems post us any questions!

Good luck!
-Kostas.

 

[jasonballamy]

The printers inks that Stormtroopers sell are more liquid and don't need to be mixed with a carrier. These sound like the ones Brian is refering to.

The thicker printers ink needs a medium, I use liquin but the clear carrier from Humbrol Metalics can be used if you let the tin settle.

Both can be mixed with oils to alter the tone.

Jason

 

[slaj]

Scott, I have mixed printers' inks with oils many times. I use white spirit asa carrier and they definately will dry

Stephen Mallia

 

[Einion]

Originally posted by SPrimeau+Aug 27 2006, 07:28 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SPrimeau @ Aug 27 2006, 07:28 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>I know it has to be mixed with other things to get it to dry... Alone it would stay wet forever, right?[/b]

It depends on the type Scott, some don't seem to dry properly on their own but others do.

Originally posted by SPrimeau@Aug 27 2006, 07:28 AM
Can this stuff be mixed with oils and still dry?

As a rule any printers' ink you get can be mixed with oils or enamels without problems since they're very similar in their basic makeup.

<!--QuoteBegin-SPrimeau@Aug 27 2006, 07:28 AM
What other things can you mix into it so it will dry? [/quote]
Liquin and other alkyd mediums, the 'carrier' from metallic enamels, varnish.

You can also use linseed oil/walnut oil/poppy oil/stand oil but they'll tend to take a long time to dry.

Einion

 

[SPrimeau]

Thanks for all your help guys, the stuff I got is from Michael Roberts and is more a clump of pigment rather than a liquid. I will be mixing it with oils I think to vary the shade of color a little, but the other mediums stated are things I will remember to use in the future.
thanks again!
Scott

 

[Paul Kernan]

Scott:
I have the printer's ink you are referring to. Bought them from The Palette 10 years ago and probably still have enough for another 30 years :lol:

I generally add a carrier to the ink (Liquin or Cobalt Drier) and then tone it down with an appropriate oil i.e. blue or black to silver, browns or yellows to gold. I find this allows for a smoother application to the figure.

For a final kick to a metal area, I apply the ink (+carrier) without the oil added. For other areas like lace or braid, an alternate application would be a controlled 'wash' of the ink.

 

[darkeye]

any-one got any links for 'stormtroopers' inks, would like to try some, am going to look for some at Euro 06.

all the best == timo

 

[SPrimeau]

Paul sorry for such a late reply and question, but can you drybrush another straight (with mixing medium, i.e. liquin etc.) application of the ink over the oil/ink mix, or do you do it wet on wet? Just wodereing because that effect would liiok good I think also- will have to try it.
Scott

 

[Paul Kernan]

Hey Scott:

Not sure, maybe try on a scrap piece first. My only concern with dry brushing is that you may lose control of the consistency and cause some of the metal pigment to corrupt adjacent colours. I have done some very careful drybrushing metal effects using acrylics. My favourite is the Citadel range which has a very fine pigment and applies well.

With Printer's ink, I generally apply wet on dry. Phil Kessling told me you should allow the mix to flow on as opposed to painting it on. This results in a much smoother finish. Hope this helps.

 

[godfather]

cobalt drier works great.