Riding position (again)

[Red Five]

Howdy

I took a few pictures over the weekend of some tent pegging.

They are riding some rather nice grey Andalusians. Note the position of the body in relation to the legs. the photographs are taken at a full gallop over wet grass.

Please contrast and compare with figures.

 

[fogie]

Wonderful stuff and highly valuable. Any of us nursed in our early years by Historex will remember all those
articles by the late Eugene Leliepvre and Pierre Conrad concerning horses, reins, balance, and the absolute
need to make the horse and rider one whole unit, and not two disparate entities.

Of course, while understanding and accepting sound riding principles we must also consider the overall pose of
our figure and its animation. Sometimes .... just sometimes ... what might be considered an example of clumsy
and inept riding style happens to work beautifully in a particular composition.

 

[Red Five]

Lean forward and push your feet back when walking and see if you fall over. That's same principle works for riding. You can claim the figures pose is dynamic but in reality in the next second the rider is on the floor. All ride by style have the same basic riding position.

Another mistake people make is showing a galloping horse over rocky ground. Possible but not advisable and you risk injury to horse and rider. I've done western trail riding over mountainous terrain, you walk or lead the horse over difficult area and jog over good ground. I saw one diorama recently where a horse was being ridden through deep water over submerged stepping stones. Try stepping on a submerged rock and see what happens....you will slip and remember a horse will have a non grippy iron shoe.

 

[mick3272]

Hi Red,
Nice pics,
I know you have more pics at the bottom but I can't access them ?
Do you have any pictures of the recover with the peg having just left
the ground attached to the lance tip ?
Mick

 

[Red Five]

Hello


https://m.facebook.com/andrew.fenwickwalpole/albums/10154722524310488/

I've added a public album to my Facebook page. The last picture is a video. Try going to my photobucket account and browsing.

Andrew

Andrew.

 

[Helm]

Good job nobody told King Billy he can't charge through water then.
Steve

 

[Helm]

Hi Red,
Nice pics,
I know you have more pics at the bottom but I can't access them ?
Do you have any pictures of the recover with the peg having just left
the ground attached to the lance tip ?
Mick

This any good Mick?

Steve

 

[Red Five]

You can gallop through Water. I've galloped on the beach many times but not over rocks. You get very wet by the way if you are not in the lead.

 

[Richie]

Hi Andy,
Cracking photo's thanks for posting .
cheers
Richie

 

[fogie]

I believe the Emperor himself was often closely flanked by his aides de camp to mask his poor horsemanship and prevent him from falling off. Indeed, I also understand that Wellington too enjoyed so little sympathy with the legendary 'Copenhagen' that the animal bit him several times. Army horses for other ranks must have been hard-mouthed cantankerous things and therefore extremely difficult to ride. In the middle of a cavalry action I feel sure that self preservation would have been more on the rider's mind than his 'seat'. Admittedly, I speak as one who believes (as someone famous once said) that horses are trouble at each end and uncomfortable in the middle. But I fully appreciate the main thrust of your argument.

 

[mick3272]

Thanks Steve,
I was looking for a couple of stills, but is help full thanks.
Mick

 

[Helm]

Thanks Steve,
I was looking for a couple of stills, but is help full thanks.
Mick

I figured that Mick but sometimes seeing the whole movement gives you a better feel than a still. Glad it was helpful anyway
Steve

 

[OldTaff]

I don't and won't do facebook, so I've missed the pics. Nevertheless, this has been a very informative thread, thanks. In my limited horse-riding experiences, I never worked out how something stuffed with hay could be so hard to sit on

Alan

 

[Wayneb]

I'm in your corner Alan.....No girlie ass facebook for me.....but I give this multiple "likes".......

 

[martin tabony]

Riding "short" with stirrups "home". The Riding Master would have kicked my arse!

 

[Huw63]

Excellent informative article. Some superb material in those pictures.

Cheers

Huw

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

I was taught to never put your foot that far into a stirrup , if you come off your foot will be trapped and you will be dragged forever .

 

[billyturnip]

I was taught to never put your foot that far into a stirrup , if you come off your foot will be trapped and you will be dragged forever .

Was that in the Drumchapel Dragoons Ron?

 

[MCPWilk]

I was taught to never put your foot that far into a stirrup , if you come off your foot will be trapped and you will be dragged forever .

and you will suffer a Lisranc mid-foot fracture-dislocation - first described from this very occurrence.

Mike

 

[Red Five]

The chap with his foot pointing down with his foot too far in the stirrup was actually the best tent pegger. He had a wonderful Andalusian and showed it off with a bit of passage/piaffe and the Spanish Walk as well as getting it to salute and rear. An accomplished and highly skilled rider but not a perfect position with his feet.

Non Facebookers you should still be able to see the photos without joining. Have a look at my other albums, lots of other stuff for modellers.