Ruesch Hussars- Prussian hussar during the SYW

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I am painting the stormtroopers trumpeter of the Ruesch Hussar regiment from the Prussian army during the SYW. I have painted the face and mirliton with the deaths head motif on the front.
I have now read that trumpeter's of this regiment didn't have rosettes or the skull motif on the mirliton.
Is there any other source with uniform reference for the trumpeter. I so want the black uniform.
 

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Hi Bob,

There are different opinions as to how the trumpeters of Rgt 5 were dressed.
Menzel shows them in this uniform...
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...whereas Daniel Hohrath - who is a specialist on all things Prussian of the Frederick II period - provides the following information:
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"The trumpeters were distinguished from the ordinary hussars by a black and white trim on the swallow's nest [the image shows a sample of this lace from the pattern book]. They wore a mirliton with silver lace and a black and white wing. After 1775, red and white trim and braiding are documented."
(Quoted from Daniel Hohrath's "Friedrich der Große und die Uniformierung der preußischen Armee von 1740 bis 1786" published by Verlag Militaria)

Hope this helps...
Karl
 
I am painting the stormtroopers trumpeter of the Ruesch Hussar regiment from the Prussian army during the SYW. I have painted the face and mirliton with the deaths head motif on the front.
I have now read that trumpeter's of this regiment didn't have rosettes or the skull motif on the mirliton.
Is there any other source with uniform reference for the trumpeter. I so want the black uniform.
That's correct, only the troopers had the death's head. NCOs, officers and musicians did not; they had rosettes of ribbon cloth or taffeta on theirs.

As far as sources go, online, the Project SYW group at Kronoskaf is a very good one. I'm a member of the group and help with the American provincial units, as much as I can. This is the URL to the article on the von Ruesch Hussars: https://kronoskaf.com/syw/index.php?title=Ruesch_Hussars

For hard-copy resources, my favorite is Bleckwenn's cassette paperbacks on Frederick's army. Most other sources you find refer back to it, anyway. And a very good recent reference, is Daniel Hohrath's "Frederick the Great and the Uniforms of his Army". It has a ton of photos, many contemporary, and many restored images from the Berlin Arsenal and other sources. Very worth the price to have in your collection!

Hope this helps, prosit!
Brad
 
Hi Bob,

There are different opinions as to how the trumpeters of Rgt 5 were dressed.
Menzel shows them in this uniform...
View attachment 703078

...whereas Daniel Hohrath - who is a specialist on all things Prussian of the Frederick II period - provides the following information:
View attachment 703076View attachment 703077
"The trumpeters were distinguished from the ordinary hussars by a black and white trim on the swallow's nest [the image shows a sample of this lace from the pattern book]. They wore a mirliton with silver lace and a black and white wing. After 1775, red and white trim and braiding are documented."
(Quoted from Daniel Hohrath's "Friedrich der Große und die Uniformierung der preußischen Armee von 1740 bis 1786" published by Verlag Militaria)

Hope this helps...
Karl

That's correct, only the troopers had the death's head. NCOs, officers and musicians did not; they had rosettes of ribbon cloth or taffeta on theirs.

As far as sources go, online, the Project SYW group at Kronoskaf is a very good one. I'm a member of the group and help with the American provincial units, as much as I can. This is the URL to the article on the von Ruesch Hussars: https://kronoskaf.com/syw/index.php?title=Ruesch_Hussars

For hard-copy resources, my favorite is Bleckwenn's cassette paperbacks on Frederick's army. Most other sources you find refer back to it, anyway. And a very good recent reference, is Daniel Hohrath's "Frederick the Great and the Uniforms of his Army". It has a ton of photos, many contemporary, and many restored images from the Berlin Arsenal and other sources. Very worth the price to have in your collection!

Hope this helps, prosit!
Brad

Ah! Karl, you just beat me! If I had only typed faster!

And I'm glad you did! I misspoke about Bleckwenn, he also shows the trumpeters without the rosette. Our page at the SYW project is correct, to be clear, too.

Prost!
Brad
Thank you both very much, looks like I am painting another head and leave the milliton bare of any insignia.
Thanks again and regards to you both.
 
Hey Bob,

When I built painted my 5th Hussar NCO (presented here on PF less than a year ago) I gathered a lot of references. Don't know how much of them are relevant to trumpeters. Also, at this point in the thread, there may be overlaps with what was shared already.
Feel free to browse my pinterest page on the 5th battalion: https://pin.it/3j7Ra45N5
Also, I have some texts I can send you. If interested, please PM me

Wait to see you efforts on this one!

Benny
 
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