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megroot
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John,
I just saw your figure's. It is a pitty that you don't ship outside the US.
Marc
I just saw your figure's. It is a pitty that you don't ship outside the US.
Marc
Wlas
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I do ship outside the U.S. when it involves members of the miniature community.
I list that I wont simply to keep those I don't feel comfortable about from bidding.
If people email me and express a desire for a kit I have no problem with that and they are welcome to bid. I've shipped to Malaysia and most recently to Czech Republic with no problems. So feel free, planeteers.
I list that I wont simply to keep those I don't feel comfortable about from bidding.
If people email me and express a desire for a kit I have no problem with that and they are welcome to bid. I've shipped to Malaysia and most recently to Czech Republic with no problems. So feel free, planeteers.
garyjd
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John, I do the same thing.~Gary
By putting that you don't doesn't it mean that Ebay doesn't allow anyone to bid outside where you will ship too.
Also if we don't know that we can bid and you will still ship to UK and Europe then we won't bid as there is no point.
And so all the people you don't feel comfortable about are not in the us and canada makes me for one feel real good.
Robin
Also if we don't know that we can bid and you will still ship to UK and Europe then we won't bid as there is no point.
And so all the people you don't feel comfortable about are not in the us and canada makes me for one feel real good.
Robin
I'm not sure why anyone will only ship to certain places. By requiring PayPal payment, you're assured of the payment. THe only shocker for the buyer can be the absurd postage costs!
And heck, with the US dollar so low, the market is there!
ANdy
And heck, with the US dollar so low, the market is there!
ANdy
LCoote
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Yes Robin, I'm with you, it annoys me when I see sellers that won't ship outside the US, or anywhere else for that matter, well who else is going to bid on figures other than other figurists anyway.
What annoys me even more is when sellers put in the description (no international bidders and any request to do so will be ignored) :angry:
But at the end of the day it's the sellers loss for not wanting to ship internationally.
What annoys me even more is when sellers put in the description (no international bidders and any request to do so will be ignored) :angry:
But at the end of the day it's the sellers loss for not wanting to ship internationally.
quang
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I'm a happy EBay buyer for some years now. But squirmish sellers just put me off.
What I cannot understand is that, like Andy said, most of the risks is on the buyer's side.
The original EBay idea is based on mutual trust. It's all so surprising that it worked so well so far.
If you fear the outside world, there are better playgrounds than eBay. :lol:
Q.
What I cannot understand is that, like Andy said, most of the risks is on the buyer's side.
The original EBay idea is based on mutual trust. It's all so surprising that it worked so well so far.
If you fear the outside world, there are better playgrounds than eBay. :lol:
Q.
Well theres at least three ebayers here who would have looked at those figures Mark,Leigh and Me all who are ruled out and as far as we can see untrusted.
Never mind I suppose there are plenty of figures abaliable that will ship to the Rest of the world.
Robin
Never mind I suppose there are plenty of figures abaliable that will ship to the Rest of the world.
Robin
Wlas
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Okay fellow planeteers, let me go into detail then why I'm 'squeamish' about selling outside the U.S. and Canada.
As a prelude let me explain that I've used eBay for years as a seller/buyer and have no problems with the system per se.
I've specified within my sales descriptions that payment is expected within 7 days after Auction's end. At times personal problems may rise and as long as the buyer
keeps in contact I will extend that period. I have always been willing to sell outside the U.S. but I've gone through enough problems that it doesn't serve me to advertise.
Countries with access to PayPal or Western Union plus the use of English get my acceptance. I am NOT multi-lingual. English is it for me.
Cash sent through foreign Post Offices is truly 'iffy'. I've had buyers from Asia and Eastern Europe send 'cash' and months later still nothing. I've had ( most recently )
a kit buyer from Asia claim to have sent me $200.00 in cash back in January. In April ( and after a great deal of communication ) he used Western Union. He got the kits in less than 10 days. At the beginning of May I got an envelope from
Asia postmarked JANUARY with the money in it!!!! There was no way I was going to 'mail' it back so I paid Western Union on my end.
I do NOT have the patience of Job.
If some of my fellow planeteers feel offended by appearing to be 'excluded' from my sales I hope my explanations thicken their skin a little.
I am by nature as friendly as a puppy, but I am not at your convenience. I am not a Retailer ( my starting prices make that obvious ) and thus the Customer is never right except when they follow my guidelines.
All of the Negatives in my Feedback ( there are 3 in 3000 transactions )come from Buyers who never paid and are no longer on eBay.
Quang, as for the 'trust system' you must be aware that eBay is a hunting ground for thousands of scammers, frauds and thieves. You should also be aware that eBay cannot or will not do much about it.
As a prelude let me explain that I've used eBay for years as a seller/buyer and have no problems with the system per se.
I've specified within my sales descriptions that payment is expected within 7 days after Auction's end. At times personal problems may rise and as long as the buyer
keeps in contact I will extend that period. I have always been willing to sell outside the U.S. but I've gone through enough problems that it doesn't serve me to advertise.
Countries with access to PayPal or Western Union plus the use of English get my acceptance. I am NOT multi-lingual. English is it for me.
Cash sent through foreign Post Offices is truly 'iffy'. I've had buyers from Asia and Eastern Europe send 'cash' and months later still nothing. I've had ( most recently )
a kit buyer from Asia claim to have sent me $200.00 in cash back in January. In April ( and after a great deal of communication ) he used Western Union. He got the kits in less than 10 days. At the beginning of May I got an envelope from
Asia postmarked JANUARY with the money in it!!!! There was no way I was going to 'mail' it back so I paid Western Union on my end.
I do NOT have the patience of Job.
If some of my fellow planeteers feel offended by appearing to be 'excluded' from my sales I hope my explanations thicken their skin a little.
I am by nature as friendly as a puppy, but I am not at your convenience. I am not a Retailer ( my starting prices make that obvious ) and thus the Customer is never right except when they follow my guidelines.
All of the Negatives in my Feedback ( there are 3 in 3000 transactions )come from Buyers who never paid and are no longer on eBay.
Quang, as for the 'trust system' you must be aware that eBay is a hunting ground for thousands of scammers, frauds and thieves. You should also be aware that eBay cannot or will not do much about it.
Anders Heintz
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The seller have the right to sell to who ever he or she wants to sell it to, it is his/her loss that they limit the market.
I dont think that John needs to be told how insulted ya'll are. If you are so 'offened', grow some skin or dont go to there. Like Robin said, there are plenty of figures, why get so worked up?
I dont think that John needs to be told how insulted ya'll are. If you are so 'offened', grow some skin or dont go to there. Like Robin said, there are plenty of figures, why get so worked up?
nagashino
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[/QUOTE]you must be aware that eBay is a hunting ground for thousands of scammers, frauds and thieves
I aint worked up over the figures as far as I am concerened if they had been avaliable to me I might have bidded. Its the way its said, oh course you can bid its just I don't trust anyone from outside the states which makes me giggle and infuriated. Lets face it the US is one of the biggest areas for computer fraud, we in Europe are just getting started compared to them. I really feel for my colleagues in the IT trade in the US having to battle that level of potential security threats, of course we batlle it but they seem to get it more.
Asia now there is again another den of our little friends who do damage.
Ahhh its easy to say grow a skin if your easily offended, maybe here on this board practicing what you preach may come into it. There has been uproar over far less on this board.
Robin
Asia now there is again another den of our little friends who do damage.
Ahhh its easy to say grow a skin if your easily offended, maybe here on this board practicing what you preach may come into it. There has been uproar over far less on this board.
Robin
Wlas
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Robin, referring to my explanation as 'nonsense' has no validity. You're 'offended'
because I don't wish to go through the trials of bad business outside the U.S..
If you used a bit of logic when you read my first post telling the planeteers that I had a few figures on eBay you would have noticed I didn't exclude anyone in the post. I simply don't advertise on eBay that all planeteers are welcome. When I pointed out in my second post that all planeteers were welcome you still failed to understand.
Sadly you feel it necessary to go on the defensive in something where there was no call to do so.
I trust people within this community which should explain my initial posting.
I simply don't trust the world as a whole.
You still have time to bid.
because I don't wish to go through the trials of bad business outside the U.S..
If you used a bit of logic when you read my first post telling the planeteers that I had a few figures on eBay you would have noticed I didn't exclude anyone in the post. I simply don't advertise on eBay that all planeteers are welcome. When I pointed out in my second post that all planeteers were welcome you still failed to understand.
Sadly you feel it necessary to go on the defensive in something where there was no call to do so.
I trust people within this community which should explain my initial posting.
I simply don't trust the world as a whole.
You still have time to bid.
Automata
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At first, I thought it seemed a bit stupid myself to only ship to US. After some less than pleasant experiences, I now specify that I only ship to North America.
A couple of bidders outside the US became very upset about how much postage would cost, and I only charge for the cost of shipping. I don't add any handling charges. One bidder even tried to tell me what he would pay for shipping! After those problems, I decided to reduce the chances of getting into these hassles that take too much time and might lead to negative feedback. Even after I limited bids to NA, I still got a few bids from Europe. Two turned out fine, the other turned into a hassle when the guy insisted on paying with a money order instead of PayPal as I specified and also came up with the postage rate he deemed fair. I ended up just nixing that deal. I think that transaction was hampered by the language barrier.
I will gladly deal with people outside of the U.S. in most cases. In fact, I have dealt with a few of you on this site with good results. But in the Ebay world, there is just too much that can go wrong.
Barry
A couple of bidders outside the US became very upset about how much postage would cost, and I only charge for the cost of shipping. I don't add any handling charges. One bidder even tried to tell me what he would pay for shipping! After those problems, I decided to reduce the chances of getting into these hassles that take too much time and might lead to negative feedback. Even after I limited bids to NA, I still got a few bids from Europe. Two turned out fine, the other turned into a hassle when the guy insisted on paying with a money order instead of PayPal as I specified and also came up with the postage rate he deemed fair. I ended up just nixing that deal. I think that transaction was hampered by the language barrier.
I will gladly deal with people outside of the U.S. in most cases. In fact, I have dealt with a few of you on this site with good results. But in the Ebay world, there is just too much that can go wrong.
Barry
Dan Morton
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I think I can see kinda both sides of this issue.
Having been a seller to half a dozen overseas buyers, I've had one complaint about postage (and I was charging this person exactly what the USPS charged me and proved it to him). It wasn't too bad and certainly neither of us took offence, etc. He just didn't understand the rates.
As a buyer I've had one unpleasant problem with a foreign seller who just would not reply to my e-mails. It went on for four months! I'd paid for the item, but not received it. E-Bay, that fount of all common sense and acute business wisdom, suggested that I call the seller. DUH. I don't speak the seller's language and I'm not callin' and payin' overseas charges to NOT be able to talk to the seller ANYWAY! On the other hand I've bought at least two dozen other items from foreign sellers successfully with no problems.
I don't think either side of this one has just cause to be ticked-off at the other. I still do business with everybody and ship everywhere, but, hey, I can understand why some of you wouldn't want to do that, given bad experiences.
There are frauds, thieves, and scam artists everywhere from downtown Omaha to the suburbs of Sydney and including e-Bay. Caveat emptor and the same goes for the seller. What drives people not to do business with certain groups probably isn't elitism, prejudice, or narrow-minded provincialism, it's just the experiences they've had.
Let's be a little understanding of one another.
all the best,
Dan
Having been a seller to half a dozen overseas buyers, I've had one complaint about postage (and I was charging this person exactly what the USPS charged me and proved it to him). It wasn't too bad and certainly neither of us took offence, etc. He just didn't understand the rates.
As a buyer I've had one unpleasant problem with a foreign seller who just would not reply to my e-mails. It went on for four months! I'd paid for the item, but not received it. E-Bay, that fount of all common sense and acute business wisdom, suggested that I call the seller. DUH. I don't speak the seller's language and I'm not callin' and payin' overseas charges to NOT be able to talk to the seller ANYWAY! On the other hand I've bought at least two dozen other items from foreign sellers successfully with no problems.
I don't think either side of this one has just cause to be ticked-off at the other. I still do business with everybody and ship everywhere, but, hey, I can understand why some of you wouldn't want to do that, given bad experiences.
There are frauds, thieves, and scam artists everywhere from downtown Omaha to the suburbs of Sydney and including e-Bay. Caveat emptor and the same goes for the seller. What drives people not to do business with certain groups probably isn't elitism, prejudice, or narrow-minded provincialism, it's just the experiences they've had.
Let's be a little understanding of one another.
all the best,
Dan
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Please understand, Dan, that I am 'ticked off' at no one here.
I can't even view it as 'sides'.
Again it was only a simple posting that I had figures on eBay and wanted to let the planeteers be aware of them in case I was offering something of interest.
I thought it would be obvious that my shipping policies would not affect any planeteers and when it appeared it wasn't I simply made it clearer with each post.
No lines were drawn by me.
No battle plans made.
No forces mustered.
I can't even view it as 'sides'.
Again it was only a simple posting that I had figures on eBay and wanted to let the planeteers be aware of them in case I was offering something of interest.
I thought it would be obvious that my shipping policies would not affect any planeteers and when it appeared it wasn't I simply made it clearer with each post.
No lines were drawn by me.
No battle plans made.
No forces mustered.
