Water

[yancy]

I am currently working a D-Day dio with over 45 converted figures. I have built two DD tanks and one snorkle model. The dio will have equipment floating in the water bumping into the tanks and the people.

Has anyone made clear waves, ripples, and such. I read that Bob Waltman had used clear caulk to form waves and then poured a thin layer of resin over the top. Has anyone tried this with success.

Do you have alternate solutions?

Yancy

 

[MSzwarc]

Yancy,

Here's a pretty good on-line article on creating water effects:

http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/tnt1...aths/tnt067.htm

Mike Szwarc

 

[Guy]

Thanks Mike,

Very interesting article for sure.

Guy

 

[garyjd]

Mike, Thanks for the article, very realistic. That one needs to go into the archieves.~Gary

 

[Guy]

Gary and Mike.

I just posted it and a couple of more web sites to the "Links" section. I put the water article under "References"

Guy

 

[yancy]

Mike-

Thanks for the link! Dana does great work.

Yancy

 

[btavis]

I did water for a large scale model of the Andrea Viking Ship and it came out pretty realistic. I didn't use resin at all. Instead I used pigmented celluclay mixed with acrylic gloss gel medium. I made wave caps with Realistic Water and created white caps by mixing microballoons into the Realistic Water. I then applied about fifty coats of Future over the whole thing to give a transparent depth to the water.

The nice thing about the gel/celluclay mix is that you can sculpt it exactly the way you want it and it gives you plenty of working time.

 

[btavis]

This is Realistic Water. It is made by Woodland Scenics. They also have something called Realistic Water Effects which is denser and good for making wave caps. Both dry perfectly clear and are basically one part polymer resin.

 

[Guy]

WOW.......Fantastic Work Bob......[/SIZE=7]

This has been on my "wish" list since it came out and you have done a spectacular job with the Viking Longship. (got any more pic's of it? )

Would love to see more

Guy

 

[quang]

Bob,

This is damn good water effect.

I can almost hear the rushing of the waves. Great colours too!

Quang

 

[btavis]

That was a commission piece sold to a shipping importer in NY. You can see more pics in the folder Viking Ship.

 

[Guy]

Thanks Bob,
I set them up in a slide show and wow......good attention to detail.....am printing them now for later reference....thanks a bunch. btw...if you have the pics still, can you post into your gallery.....alot of people would enjoy them long after your post with the link is burried.

Thanks
Guy

 

[btavis]

Do I have a Gallery? Didn't know that. Perhaps over the weekend since I am really busy today.

 

[Guy]

Hello Bob,

By the time you are ready to post pics into your gallery I am sure gordy can email you your username and password to start one tomorrow

Would love it if you did, and you can keep the progress shots of your current project their too.

Guy

 

[Guy]

Btw Yancy,

Any chance of seeing some progress shots of your current multi-figure project?

we would love to see what you are working on.

Thanks,
Guy

 

[yancy]

Guy-

No problem-

Will get he camera out and shoot some pics.

BTavis-

I can't beleive the water on the ship. Fantastic!!!

How about a how-to article?

Yancy

 

[btavis]

Originally posted by yancy@Nov 14 2003, 06:57 PM


BTavis-

I can't beleive the water on the ship. Fantastic!!!

How about a how-to article?

Yancy

Yancy, that's possible. Right now I am pretty busy but we'll see.

A lot of rendering water is how it is painted. Most deep sea water is not that transparent even close to the shore - it's pretty murky. I painted in layers with Future brushed on between coats. Lots of transparent variation in the blue/green/greyish water. I used to live near the water and I spent a lot of time just looking at it. That helps.

Here's a top view of the water:

 

[yancy]

I understand busy.

So use layers of Future? I have used layers of bartop resin, but it takes so long to dry.

I am very interesting in the wave action. If I can get that down for my D-Day dio, I will be very happy.

Thanks for the topside pic.

Yancy

 

[btavis]

Future dries prety fast especially if you use a hairdryer.

What I did was use the celluclay/gel medium to sculpt the waves. swells and depressions. The mixture produces a very dimpled surface which when the painting/future overlay is applied serves to catch the light exactly the way real water does. The reason for doing so many layers of future is to produce a translucent effect and add the right amnount of gloss (wetness) to the surface. Between each layer of future I painted a very diluted mix alternating between grey-green and ultramarine blue very thinned down. Experiment first.

The diagram shows an exaggerated side view of how the translucent layers are built up. Very tedious so plan on doing it over several nights.

 

[Guy]

hello Bob,
Yes, very tedious.....but worth the time......if the result is what you achieved.......great

Guy