Dolf
A Fixture
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Thanks for the input Ron 
"I am gathering you are very new to oils or you would not be asking the question"
Yes indeed, totally new! A real beginner!
Despite having been a modeler for many years now (the usual kits, aircraft, cars, ships, some 1/35 figures on dioramas, etc), I only used enamels for that (and a very occasional oil, mainly Burnt Sienna and/or Ray Umber, for a couple of Verlinden 120mm figures I painted in the distant past, painted with Humbrol enamels, the mentioned oils only for the leather parts), so only discovering oils now as I'm yet to paint my first bust! Already bought a few, but haven't started them yet (well apart from that La Meridiana Apache Lipan, that I've already primed with Mr Primer Surfacer, it might be my first go on this fully oil painting) .
"add some turps to make the paint flow and you are on your way"
Bought my first flak of turpentine recently, haven't used it yet.
Does it help to keep the oil paints as matte as possible (removing that shinny look many of them have) and does it accelerate the drying process?
"dont add anything but turps just about everything else messes with the process."
What about those Abteilung 502 thinners, "Fast Dry Thinner" and "Matt Effect Thinner"?
Haven't tested the Matt one yet, as for the Fast one, have recently tested, and it seems to have helped the paint dry much faster than usual.
"You will find earth pigments dry the fastest and the lighter the pigment the longer the drying process ."
Yes, I've already noticed that! Burnt Sienna, Raw Umber, for instance, do indeed dry faster than some reds and yellows...
"Your under coat for most purposes will be as close to your finish colour as possible : this ensures a very thin application of the oil paint and it MUST be matt ."
Well, on my failed 120mm USA pilot (from which I had to entirely remove all the paint, and restart from zero), for the 1st time I used a primer (that Mr Hobby Mr Primer Surfacer 1000) and then a base coat (Humbrol enamel #63, Matt Sand) .
I'll paint him again with oils, intend to start after I finish my current project (a 1/350 sailing ship, so you see, nothing to do with figures nor busts) .
Anyway, this Humbrol enamel #63 is a matt color. But it isn't that close to the final oil colors I'll use for this guy! The Mae West is yellow/yellowish-orangish, the uniform is a kind of yellowish khaki, almost a beige...
"The aid of a drying or light box will speed things up"
Yes, I intend to use an old maternity box I used for breeding some psittacine birds years ago, which seems to have all the characteristics needed for a drying box for figures and busts painted with oils.
Pics here, on the last post of this thread: https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/making-a-holder.37077/page-2
Cheers!
Dolf
"I am gathering you are very new to oils or you would not be asking the question"
Yes indeed, totally new! A real beginner!
Despite having been a modeler for many years now (the usual kits, aircraft, cars, ships, some 1/35 figures on dioramas, etc), I only used enamels for that (and a very occasional oil, mainly Burnt Sienna and/or Ray Umber, for a couple of Verlinden 120mm figures I painted in the distant past, painted with Humbrol enamels, the mentioned oils only for the leather parts), so only discovering oils now as I'm yet to paint my first bust! Already bought a few, but haven't started them yet (well apart from that La Meridiana Apache Lipan, that I've already primed with Mr Primer Surfacer, it might be my first go on this fully oil painting) .
"add some turps to make the paint flow and you are on your way"
Bought my first flak of turpentine recently, haven't used it yet.
Does it help to keep the oil paints as matte as possible (removing that shinny look many of them have) and does it accelerate the drying process?
"dont add anything but turps just about everything else messes with the process."
What about those Abteilung 502 thinners, "Fast Dry Thinner" and "Matt Effect Thinner"?
Haven't tested the Matt one yet, as for the Fast one, have recently tested, and it seems to have helped the paint dry much faster than usual.
"You will find earth pigments dry the fastest and the lighter the pigment the longer the drying process ."
Yes, I've already noticed that! Burnt Sienna, Raw Umber, for instance, do indeed dry faster than some reds and yellows...
"Your under coat for most purposes will be as close to your finish colour as possible : this ensures a very thin application of the oil paint and it MUST be matt ."
Well, on my failed 120mm USA pilot (from which I had to entirely remove all the paint, and restart from zero), for the 1st time I used a primer (that Mr Hobby Mr Primer Surfacer 1000) and then a base coat (Humbrol enamel #63, Matt Sand) .
I'll paint him again with oils, intend to start after I finish my current project (a 1/350 sailing ship, so you see, nothing to do with figures nor busts) .
Anyway, this Humbrol enamel #63 is a matt color. But it isn't that close to the final oil colors I'll use for this guy! The Mae West is yellow/yellowish-orangish, the uniform is a kind of yellowish khaki, almost a beige...
"The aid of a drying or light box will speed things up"
Yes, I intend to use an old maternity box I used for breeding some psittacine birds years ago, which seems to have all the characteristics needed for a drying box for figures and busts painted with oils.
Pics here, on the last post of this thread: https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/making-a-holder.37077/page-2
Cheers!
Dolf
