11.11.11

[DEL]

I've started to binge watch, binge read and binge listen to what is likely to be an emotional experience over the next few days
The following three songs are I'm sure well known to most of us but are not in any way diminished because of that.
These are my favourite versions of each and I'm always amazed that those who sing them can actually get to the end.



Please add your own favourites
It would be great to listen to some Canadian, French, German and US songs of loss and remembrance

 

[megroot]

My favorite is from the Fureys. It is how many man died, and how we see it today. Is there something changed???
I always wondered if Douglas Haig has ever been called guilty on this massacre???

Marc

 

[Old Pete]

No Marc In Britain at that time if you are a friend of the king you are made an Earl

 

[Helm]

I suggest you two gents sneering at Haig read this
https://www.historyhit.com/douglas-haig-butcher/
and this
Lions led by donkeys'

This saying was supposed to have come from senior German commanders describing brave British soldiers led by incompetent old toffs from their chateaux. In fact the incident was made up by historian Alan Clark.
During the war more than 200 generals were killed, wounded or captured. Most visited the front lines every day. In battle they were considerably closer to the action than generals are today.
Naturally, some generals were not up to the job, but others were brilliant, such as Arthur Currie, a middle-class Canadian failed insurance broker and property developer.
Rarely in history have commanders had to adapt to a more radically different technological environment.
British commanders had been trained to fight small colonial wars; now they were thrust into a massive industrial struggle unlike anything the British army had ever seen.
Despite this, within three years the British had effectively invented a method of warfare still recognisable today. By the summer of 1918 the British army was probably at its best ever and it inflicted crushing defeats on the Germans.

A much maligned man, who deserves better especially on here.
And as for the original subject

Excellent choices there Del

another couple same song different setting

 

[Richie]

Here is one I heard years ago

 

[billyturnip]

I suggest you two gents sneering at Haig read this
https://www.historyhit.com/douglas-haig-butcher/
and this
Lions led by donkeys'

This saying was supposed to have come from senior German commanders describing brave British soldiers led by incompetent old toffs from their chateaux. In fact the incident was made up by historian Alan Clark.
During the war more than 200 generals were killed, wounded or captured. Most visited the front lines every day. In battle they were considerably closer to the action than generals are today.
Naturally, some generals were not up to the job, but others were brilliant, such as Arthur Currie, a middle-class Canadian failed insurance broker and property developer.
Rarely in history have commanders had to adapt to a more radically different technological environment.
British commanders had been trained to fight small colonial wars; now they were thrust into a massive industrial struggle unlike anything the British army had ever seen.
Despite this, within three years the British had effectively invented a method of warfare still recognisable today. By the summer of 1918 the British army was probably at its best ever and it inflicted crushing defeats on the Germans.

A much maligned man, who deserves better especially on here.

Well said Steve. You would hope after 100 years some of these ridiculous ideas were put to bed and but what makes it worse is they actually teach this rubbish in schools.

 

[swralph]

 

[DEL]

[quote="swralph,/quote]

Certainly paints a visceral picture Ralph.

 

[chippy]

This song always brings a chill to me when I hear it . Maybe because the music is cheerful but the words are tragic .

chippy

 

[Ronaldo]

British army , best there is and the worst led

 

[billyturnip]

British army , best there is and the worst led

Ron, that's another myth, if that was the truth how do you explain the fact that Great Britain, along with our allies, defeated the Germans, who at the time were the best army in Europe?

 

[Helm]

British army , best there is and the worst led

Ron you might want to read this and it may well change your view
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tommy-Brit...&ie=UTF8&qid=1541845880&sr=1-4&keywords=Tommy

 

[billyturnip]

Ron you might want to read this and it may well change your view
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tommy-Brit...&ie=UTF8&qid=1541845880&sr=1-4&keywords=Tommy

Or in fact anything written by a proper historian.

 

[Mirofsoft]

French

 

[ghamilt1]

This is one of my favourite songs, sung by the Canton Chamber Choir. Of course I'm biased because my daughter was a member of this choir. I give you "Bonny Wood Green"