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Well done Luis! (y) I look forward to reading Andrea's answer, and I guess we all are curious to finally hear why their prices are so high outside of Spain.
 

I didn't bash Andrea there, Gordy, and have no intention of bashing them. But I do feel they owe the figure painter/Andrea customer an explanation for these weird price differences: I live in Belgium, in the EU, of which Spain is also a member state, and yet prices here are much higher than in Spain as well ... postage/shipping costs? : okay. But then still you shouldn't notice too much of that, as retailers should get a reduction from Andrea (do they?). As for taxes, VAT etc., I don't think that within the borders of the EU there are still customs charges. So I'd really love to hear what Andrea have to say.

... And hey, that Prussian IS a lovely figure isn't it!

cheers,

Johan
 
I don't reallty have any complaints or issues with how much a figure costs. It's my choice to buy it, right?

I also have come to the realization that I have spent more $ on paints, mags, brushes, putty etc than I ever have on individual figs!
 
Originally posted by Anders Heintz@Feb 4 2004, 11:35 AM
as long as people are willing to pay it and they sell their prodcuts I am afraid it is not going to change much.
Very true. In fact someone from Michigan bought that Roman Warship...you know...the one that cost $2,500.00 :eek: :eek:

Well this is turning out to be a healthy discussion. Let it be known my intention was not to bash Andrea, their out to make a buck and doing a fine job of it. I just wanted to voice my view on the price issue.

Let me ask you guy's this; Is there anybody on this forum that would pay $36.95 for a 54mm? C'mon, be honest...We're all friends here. There's alotta love in this community

Happy B-day Johan!
 
Is there anybody on this forum that would pay $36.95 for a 54mm? C'mon, be honest...We're all friends here. There's alotta love in this community 

Happy B-day Johan!

Thanks!

Dunno, Jason ... it's a beautiful fig of a subject that has only been done (and very well too) by Corso Models in 65mm (recently) so far...(now there's a hint for you Jason )

No, seriously, I'm not going to buy it, you can get a 90mm for that price from some manufacturors. :lol:

Hmm. How much was it that they ask for the Corso Models Prussian landwehr infantryman?

Let's have a look here : http://www.corsomodels.com/landwehr.htm
 
What does a figure manufactured in the U.S. in Spain cost? I think a comparison would be illuminating
I sell Michael roberts 54mm for 28 euro's. I have now find a new importer which will allow me to drop the price to about 23 euro. i also think it has a lot to do with how much profit the shop wants to get. Pegaso sell there 54mm figures at 25.50 euro. I buy them at an Italian distibutor, and even with postage costs etc... I manage to sell them for 21.10. Why? Because I love my hobby and I'm not using it to get rich fast. I'm a modeller myself, so I know how important it is to be able to buy a figure at a reasonable price. I recently have bought a Durendal figure at 33 euro's. There was some cast groundwork included which made it worth the money for me.

Best wishes,

Gino
 
Happy belated birthday,Johan :lol: I'm currently 39,going on 40,so I guess that makes me really "old" ya Anyway,guys,I live in Singapore which is way across the other end of the world,so everything is expensive no matter where they come from.I agree,for that price,the figure should be bigger However,as long as there is an interest for the product,there will always be a market for it,hence the manufacturer can set whatever price they want for the item.Just my 2 cents worth.Cheers Kenneth.
 
Stephan makes some very good points, packaging, marketing etc. how about you are a fan of the scupltor?

I think there is a difference in cultures as well as conversion rates. What do we look for in a figure? Do you paint 1 a year or a dozen? What do you consider "bang for your buck"? Do you follow a particular sculptor regardless of the casting house? Are you willing to pay more for a particular scupltor? Do you collect particular sculptors work? White-metal vs resin? Which costs more to cast? Casting houses pay more to one sculptor and less to another? How do they recoup those investments?
 
Well put,Gordy;I agree with you totally on all counts (y) Cheers Kenneth.
By the way,finally started painting the 2 figures for my ACW vignette Hope to post some images this weekend.
 
Hi all

The biggest thing I find strange here is the difference between the US prices and the manufacturer, surely the only thing that should change is shipping, ie one might be going to the next town one might be going half way round the world.

Hositorex sell the spacehunter(Arnie) for £14.95/$27/21 euros but alot of the figures are cheaper than that.

Interesting debate this, one of the main points is that while people will pay people will charge.

The exchange rate must have something to do with it, but why the difference in price amongst us retailers, the price at Historex would suggest some sort of discount to retailers.

I will watch this thread with interest


I am looking forward to the reply from Andrea should they send one.


Robin
 
Jason,
I hear you, brother. Have you read the latest editorial in Historical Miniature? Sounds like you should send them a letter in response to it. When I first started in the hobby, I had a rule that helped curb my gray army spending: no more than 40 cents per scale-millimeter (what can I say? I'm a math-professor/geek by profession :) ). Now we see figures going for 69 cents per millimeter (as in your case) and even more - in some instances $1 per millimeter (that's why I refuse to purchase Soldiers' new 90mm paratrooper, despite its many inaccuracies). What has the market come to? To be honest, it's come to textbook supply & demand. If we, the consumers, are willing to pay such prices then so much the better for the manufacturer. I wish I had a solution to offer (if I had that sort of foresight, I'd be out buying a lotto ticket right now ;) ), but there is none. In the meantime, as you said, we decide with our wallets. If it's not worth it, then we simply don't buy it. It's as simple as that.
 
Robin,
Here's something to consider when thinking about the disparity between prices in the US and those in Europe: the US distributor. The US distributor needs to meet its profit margin as well if it hopes to stay in business. I remember that, last year, a retailer here in California (now known as "Kaleefohneeyah") told me how he had to raise his prices on Andrea kits because the US distributor jacked their prices up (after they became exclusive US distributors. Can we say "monopoly"?). Oh, we have the option of ordering directly from the manufacturer, but who wants to wait for the kit to possibly arrive via a slow boat around the Galapagos? If so, then in essence we're paying mainly for "shipping" when purchasing through a US distributor.
 
Just got Andrea's answer to my/our enquiry:

"Prices in US dollars are placed according to our USA distributor, MMD, and are placed according to this company’s needs and cost analysis.

Andrea Miniatures has nothing to do with those prices in USA territory and regrets any inconvenience to our USA customers.

We suggest contacting MMD our USA distributor for more information regarding our prices or any other matter."



Atentamente,



MINIATURAS ANDREA, S.L
Los Talleres, 21 - 28430 Alpedrete(Madrid) - Spain
Phone: 34 918570008 - Fax: 34 918570048
Information: [email protected]
Orders: [email protected]
Commercial Department: [email protected]
Web: www.andrea-miniatures.com
 
Thank's Luis, for posting Andrea's reply.It seems to me The U.S. distributors
are "testing the water" to find out what people are prepared to pay. Sure it is a terrific figure but there are many terrific figures about and reasonably priced.

People pay a lot for video/computer games which provide just the same
level of enjoyment as we get from painting figures.

So it seems leisure pursuits come at a price but we all agree it should not have
to be a crazy one.

Frank (y)

Happy birthday Johan (I hit 48 in December just gone)
 
Thanks Luis and thanks to Andrea for a prompt response,

Let's also consider the weight and minimum quotas, it isn't uncommon for the manufacturer to set a quota of a minimum order. Twenty-five of anything white-metal is kind of hefty!
 
This is completely off topic, but...

Hey, Luis, I could hardly fail to notice your new avatar... maybe your success in stablishing contact with Andrea has anything to do with such a self-engrandissement?
 
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