grasshopper
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Maybe it’s the photos, but the coat looks old and faded, the best and chain brand new..would the vest over the embroidery do with some subtle darks?
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Hi Martin
"Artjom" is certainly done from the front ........back and sides .....just the invisible part ......
Excellent result ...you must be happy
Mmmmm a "gimmick" for the base ...intriguing ? ............perhaps a sword hilt ??
Thanks for sharing
Nap
"Artjom" is certainly done from the front ........back and sides .....just the invisible part ......
Excellent result ...you must be happy
Mmmmm a "gimmick" for the base ...intriguing ? ............perhaps a sword hilt ??
Thanks for sharing
Nap
Wayneb
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Martin......I think your paint work is looking great.
And to Grasshopper....A quote by Denzel; ( "I loves the fifty forf" )........
Wayne
grasshopper
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Thanks Wayne, my bad ...ha ha..
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52. Day, May 18, 2018
This work I already did yesterday - only today made the picture!
The "invisible side" is now even finished!
And since that's such a beautiful sculpture, I gilded Pavol's signature (OFFO) - he deserves it!
And because I'm pretty satisfied with the painting, I have my "Friedrich-Wilhelm" also painted in gold ...:
So, the bust is finished - I'm not!
Because now I want to build a gimmick for the base.
Next week more about that.
Cheers
This work I already did yesterday - only today made the picture!
The "invisible side" is now even finished!
And since that's such a beautiful sculpture, I gilded Pavol's signature (OFFO) - he deserves it!
And because I'm pretty satisfied with the painting, I have my "Friedrich-Wilhelm" also painted in gold ...:
So, the bust is finished - I'm not!
Because now I want to build a gimmick for the base.
Next week more about that.
Cheers
Nice clean finish at the back Martin
Bring on that gimmick !
Nap
Bring on that gimmick !
Nap
bagelman1952
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Superb. Thank you for taking me on your journey.
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53. and 54. Day, May 19 and 21, 2018
So - "Artjom" is stowed away dustproof and I have been thinking of what I can decorate the base as well.
My last two busts (the Admiral and the Doncossack) got the respective troop part badges from the tsar as Gimmik - just stupid that there was not such a thing among the Zaporozhian Cossacks in the 17th century!
Nap had suggested that I should decorate the base with the saber of our friend - of which I was at first quite pleased.
But such a special Ottoman "Karabela" saber ("Karabela" means "black death") like that I did years ago, when I sculpted "Artjom" in 90 mm ...:
Also not great ...
When looking at pictures with Zaporozhye Cossacks, I noticed that they carried with them a lot of flags, standards and banners on campaigns ...
... and the idea for a gimmick was born!
First, but a little research, what came together:
The oldest Zaporoshian field marks were horse tail standards that they had copied from Tartar Templates!
There were several different versions, the main thing, a horse tail attached to it!
But it could also be several, the more, the higher the rank of the respective "banner gentleman".
The Sotnik (leader of a hundred) had a horse tail, the Woiskowoi-Ataman (commander of military campaigns) whose two ...:
Such a Cossack Horse Tail Banner can even be seen on the famous "Monument of Millennial Russia" in Velikije Novgorod ...:
It just stupid that I've done such a banner ever before - namely as a gimmick for Andy Cairns' beautiful Zaporozhian Cossacks.
"My" banner I had Tatar role models ...
...Reconstructed from the museum in the former Khan palace of the old Crimean capital Bachtschisserei ...:
... and laid as a trophy at the feet of the Cossack ...:
**continued next post**
So - "Artjom" is stowed away dustproof and I have been thinking of what I can decorate the base as well.
My last two busts (the Admiral and the Doncossack) got the respective troop part badges from the tsar as Gimmik - just stupid that there was not such a thing among the Zaporozhian Cossacks in the 17th century!
Nap had suggested that I should decorate the base with the saber of our friend - of which I was at first quite pleased.
But such a special Ottoman "Karabela" saber ("Karabela" means "black death") like that I did years ago, when I sculpted "Artjom" in 90 mm ...:
Also not great ...
When looking at pictures with Zaporozhye Cossacks, I noticed that they carried with them a lot of flags, standards and banners on campaigns ...
... and the idea for a gimmick was born!
First, but a little research, what came together:
The oldest Zaporoshian field marks were horse tail standards that they had copied from Tartar Templates!
There were several different versions, the main thing, a horse tail attached to it!
But it could also be several, the more, the higher the rank of the respective "banner gentleman".
The Sotnik (leader of a hundred) had a horse tail, the Woiskowoi-Ataman (commander of military campaigns) whose two ...:
Such a Cossack Horse Tail Banner can even be seen on the famous "Monument of Millennial Russia" in Velikije Novgorod ...:
It just stupid that I've done such a banner ever before - namely as a gimmick for Andy Cairns' beautiful Zaporozhian Cossacks.
"My" banner I had Tatar role models ...
...Reconstructed from the museum in the former Khan palace of the old Crimean capital Bachtschisserei ...:
... and laid as a trophy at the feet of the Cossack ...:
**continued next post**
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And I did not want to build a second horse tail banner!
Maybe the flags?
Cossacks carried many flags on campaigns, mainly large and colorful, with motives on it or without - the main thing magnificent!
However, they did not have a tactical meaning in battle - they should only "impress"!
Problem: These things were so big that I could wrap "Artjom" in them without any problems. For a pedestal ornament absolutely too much!
Stay the standards:
They were much smaller and decorated with simple, easily recognizable symbols.
Each Sotnik had his own standard so that his people in the fray could always see exactly where their boss was. The standards also served for command transmission.
There are amazingly many of these 17th-century standards preserved ...:
Here is one - of several - overviews ...:
The fact that there are so many today is due to the fact that they were usually not in use for long.
If the Sotnik permanently deceased from the Zaporozhian warriors due to death, wounding or old age, the mambers of the Sotnia chose a successor, who in turn gained a new standard.
Such a standard is now my "Plan B" as a base ornament!
**continued next post**
Maybe the flags?
Cossacks carried many flags on campaigns, mainly large and colorful, with motives on it or without - the main thing magnificent!
However, they did not have a tactical meaning in battle - they should only "impress"!
Problem: These things were so big that I could wrap "Artjom" in them without any problems. For a pedestal ornament absolutely too much!
Stay the standards:
They were much smaller and decorated with simple, easily recognizable symbols.
Each Sotnik had his own standard so that his people in the fray could always see exactly where their boss was. The standards also served for command transmission.
There are amazingly many of these 17th-century standards preserved ...:
Here is one - of several - overviews ...:
The fact that there are so many today is due to the fact that they were usually not in use for long.
If the Sotnik permanently deceased from the Zaporozhian warriors due to death, wounding or old age, the mambers of the Sotnia chose a successor, who in turn gained a new standard.
Such a standard is now my "Plan B" as a base ornament!
**continued next post**
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Plan "A" on the other hand is a special banner that only existed in this form among Russians, Ukrainians and Cossacks - namely a church banner.
They did not have the traditional shape of a flag, but resembled a Roman vexilum!
Here is one in the background ...:
However, there are other pictures with such banners ...:
And since they are still in use today ...
... we are pretty well informed about the look and dimensions!
Those church banners were painted by women at that time - for the painting there were strict incongruous rules!
Then the banner was consecrated by the local priest in a special ceremony and accompanied the campaign as a auspicious symbol.
Such a church banner - scaled down a bit - I've built myself last Friday!
First of all, I grabbed a block of wood that has the height of my base (the width is not that important!) and simulated the circumferential groove with balsa strips ...:
Then I glued a toothpick as a "dummy" for the carrier rod, because I will build the final rod only if I have managed the Banner fabric reasonably presentable ...
Three materials are suitable for this cloth:
1. Metal foil. Advantage: Scale is thin, Disadvantage: To sculpt a realistic drape is tricky!
2. Fimo: Advantage: Goes fast and can be cured in a short time (vulgo: baked in the oven). Disadvantage: very
brittle, especially when it's as thin as a banner cloth!
3. Modeling clay: Advantage: good residual elasticity, disadvantage: long dry hardening times.
I still chose "Milliput".
On baking paper, a lump with a bottle of cake dough was rolled out and smoothed, then I modeled the banner cloth ...:
... then carefully detached and attached to the wooden block. With an alcohol-soaked brush, I then carefully made the folds, until he looked realistic enough to me ...:
The support bar behind it clearly stands out (which later gives me space for the real one without applying anything - and otherwise the "cloth" is quite realistic.
Since yesterday I was already in the matter of vintage cars anyway, the "Banner" could harden in peace.
Earlier, I carefully touched it with a thin knife blade from the block - this proved the residual flexibility of the "Milliput" and the thing remained intact.
It will later be attached to the base of "Artjom" like this...:
I just primed the thing then - it's finished, for painting ...:
Cheers
They did not have the traditional shape of a flag, but resembled a Roman vexilum!
Here is one in the background ...:
However, there are other pictures with such banners ...:
And since they are still in use today ...
... we are pretty well informed about the look and dimensions!
Those church banners were painted by women at that time - for the painting there were strict incongruous rules!
Then the banner was consecrated by the local priest in a special ceremony and accompanied the campaign as a auspicious symbol.
Such a church banner - scaled down a bit - I've built myself last Friday!
First of all, I grabbed a block of wood that has the height of my base (the width is not that important!) and simulated the circumferential groove with balsa strips ...:
Then I glued a toothpick as a "dummy" for the carrier rod, because I will build the final rod only if I have managed the Banner fabric reasonably presentable ...
Three materials are suitable for this cloth:
1. Metal foil. Advantage: Scale is thin, Disadvantage: To sculpt a realistic drape is tricky!
2. Fimo: Advantage: Goes fast and can be cured in a short time (vulgo: baked in the oven). Disadvantage: very
brittle, especially when it's as thin as a banner cloth!
3. Modeling clay: Advantage: good residual elasticity, disadvantage: long dry hardening times.
I still chose "Milliput".
On baking paper, a lump with a bottle of cake dough was rolled out and smoothed, then I modeled the banner cloth ...:
... then carefully detached and attached to the wooden block. With an alcohol-soaked brush, I then carefully made the folds, until he looked realistic enough to me ...:
The support bar behind it clearly stands out (which later gives me space for the real one without applying anything - and otherwise the "cloth" is quite realistic.
Since yesterday I was already in the matter of vintage cars anyway, the "Banner" could harden in peace.
Earlier, I carefully touched it with a thin knife blade from the block - this proved the residual flexibility of the "Milliput" and the thing remained intact.
It will later be attached to the base of "Artjom" like this...:
I just primed the thing then - it's finished, for painting ...:
Cheers
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55. Day, May 22, 2018
By far the most common illustration on church banners of the 17th century was the Christ Face.
The pictures - painted in the strict Byzantine style - were all a bit different, but all had the same iconographic similarities:
- At the head a few short hair fall in the forehead,
- the eyes are relatively dark and big,
- The ears are slightly below the point where they should sit anatomically,
- the hair falls in the neck in two curls on the right and left on the shoulder; they are black,
- the beard ends in a double point; it is dark brown.
Here are a few originals from the 17th century ...:
And here's a modern graphic that reproduces a 17th century template ...:
I've never painted a face freehand before - let alone in Byzantine style - so I had to torment myself quite properly ...
With these colors ...
... after two and a half hours of work the following came out - my "Christ" has all of the mentioned iconographic peculiarities, but I think he looks a bit like Bob Marley.
A slight distortion due to the drapery is taken into account, which did not make painting even easier ..:
And?
Do we accept that ...?
Cheers
By far the most common illustration on church banners of the 17th century was the Christ Face.
The pictures - painted in the strict Byzantine style - were all a bit different, but all had the same iconographic similarities:
- At the head a few short hair fall in the forehead,
- the eyes are relatively dark and big,
- The ears are slightly below the point where they should sit anatomically,
- the hair falls in the neck in two curls on the right and left on the shoulder; they are black,
- the beard ends in a double point; it is dark brown.
Here are a few originals from the 17th century ...:
And here's a modern graphic that reproduces a 17th century template ...:
I've never painted a face freehand before - let alone in Byzantine style - so I had to torment myself quite properly ...
With these colors ...
... after two and a half hours of work the following came out - my "Christ" has all of the mentioned iconographic peculiarities, but I think he looks a bit like Bob Marley.
A slight distortion due to the drapery is taken into account, which did not make painting even easier ..:
And?
Do we accept that ...?
Cheers
Martin Antonenko
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The longer I look at my painting tork today, the more dissatisfied I will become!
Take a look at the church banner on this picture (just as an example there are others) ...:
And then again my work ...:
What is striking?
Apart from the fact that I have derailed the proportions of the head (the head seems too long and too narrow!),my "Jesus" has been much too big to the scale!
Does not help anything: I'll do it again tomorrow ...!
Cheers
Take a look at the church banner on this picture (just as an example there are others) ...:
And then again my work ...:
What is striking?
Apart from the fact that I have derailed the proportions of the head (the head seems too long and too narrow!),my "Jesus" has been much too big to the scale!
Does not help anything: I'll do it again tomorrow ...!
Cheers
grasshopper
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Patience dude..it will come to you...
I hint you hijacked your own thread..it’s more than a build but a history lesson as well...fascinating!
I hint you hijacked your own thread..it’s more than a build but a history lesson as well...fascinating!
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56. Day, May 23, 2018
I think this second try was worth it ...:
Cheers
I think this second try was worth it ...:
Cheers
bagelman1952
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Agreed
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57. Day, May 24, 2018
Slowly my work begins to look like a religious banner!
For the "halo" I have taken a very thin mixture of gold and black in the ratio 1: 1 ...
... and this "old gold" (that's what I'll call it) four times glazed applied.
That gives a nice effect!
From the small letters in the cross we prefer to keep silent!
The "halo" has the dimensions of a Eurocent piece ...:
Cheers
Slowly my work begins to look like a religious banner!
For the "halo" I have taken a very thin mixture of gold and black in the ratio 1: 1 ...
... and this "old gold" (that's what I'll call it) four times glazed applied.
That gives a nice effect!
From the small letters in the cross we prefer to keep silent!
The "halo" has the dimensions of a Eurocent piece ...:
Cheers
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58. Day, May 25, 2018
And further on...:
Cheers
And further on...:
Cheers
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59. Day, May 26, 2018
Made this morning - and just uploaded. In between, I've tried at cloudless 29 degrees, (Celsius) if my butt grows together with the deck chair ...
I am through with the flag cloth!
The surrounding fringes are again painted with "old gold" (a very thin mixture of gold and black).
For the rest, I chose "red" - matching to the bust. The "cloth" was first painted with these colors, quite normal with light and shadow ....:
However, if you look at an original you will notice that it is made of heavy silk fabric - so it shimmers a bit ...:
So I mixed my last red veneer glaze in a 3: 1 ratio with this effect stuff ...:
The result is a very subtile - and only at full incidence of light at all really perceptible - hint of pearl shine, which I'm quite satisfied with...:
But my church banner is not finished yet ...
Cheers
Made this morning - and just uploaded. In between, I've tried at cloudless 29 degrees, (Celsius) if my butt grows together with the deck chair ...
I am through with the flag cloth!
The surrounding fringes are again painted with "old gold" (a very thin mixture of gold and black).
For the rest, I chose "red" - matching to the bust. The "cloth" was first painted with these colors, quite normal with light and shadow ....:
However, if you look at an original you will notice that it is made of heavy silk fabric - so it shimmers a bit ...:
So I mixed my last red veneer glaze in a 3: 1 ratio with this effect stuff ...:
The result is a very subtile - and only at full incidence of light at all really perceptible - hint of pearl shine, which I'm quite satisfied with...:
But my church banner is not finished yet ...
Cheers
