Devine Wind Bust

[Mongo Mel]

Greeting all,
It's been awhile since I've posted here simply because it's been awhile since I've done anything
This is Verlinden's 200mm "Devine Wind kamikaze bust. It's totally incomplete, just some of the face painted so far.
I'd appreciate any constructive comments and criticisims you may have because this is the first oriental skintone I'd attempted.

Thanks in advance,
Craig

 

[Lou Masses]

Chris, what do you use tohighlight?

 

[KeithP]

Craig-

Good to see your back here and good to see your work again!

Seems a little pinky to me Although, as you said, this is early times for this bust. What mixes are you using or plan to use for your oriental tones?

Keith

 

[Mongo Mel]

Wow..that was fast!
Actually, this is the end result (I think ).
It's my basic fleshtone mix of Burnt Sienna, WN Flesh, some Gold Ochre and this mix lightened with Titanium White to suit. All I did here was use more Burnt Sienna and Gold Ochre and less T. White to get a darker tone.
The highlighting was done with a mix of T. White, WN Flesh and a little Gold Ochre.
And the darker shadows were done with Brown Madder Alizeran.
In my hands, it doesn't look pink so much as a reddish brown. I'm hoping that this will lessen some when I add the surrounding colors.
Craig

 

[Lou Masses]

I find it to be very well painted in terms of craftsmanship. If I might suggest, I would use a little naples yellow in the highlights. It could tone down the pinkishness/redish brown a bit as well as make the flesh go more in the direction of an "olive complexion" that is more accurate of the Japanese. Also when you're done, add a very small extreme highlight to the very highest points on the face and blend them in only slightly (I usually use a mix of Tit white and Naples Yellow-much more white than yellow). That would help make it "pop".

Again, excellently done. If you'd like I have a book on mixinfg fleshtones for different races. I can post the Asian color chart tonight (although it probably goes against what I just said). If you're done, it looks great, even without the eyes, I can sense an expression on his face.

 

[Mongo Mel]

Lou,
Thanks for the comments. I'd like to give your suggestion a try. Only problem is, I don't have Naples Yellow in my stash. Any ideas on a reasonable substitute? I know I have Cad Yellow and C. Y. Deep Hue, as well as Mars Yellow and Juane Brilliant too. Or would I be better served just getting a tube of Naples Yellow?
If you wouldn't mind, I'd really appreciate seeing the mix you have in that book.
Could you also please post the title and author of the book. And your thoughts on whether it's worth my trying to find it.
I hope I'm not asking for tto much there
Thanks,
Craig

 

[Lou Masses]

Craig,

Not a problem at all. I would stick with naples because (I am not a chemist) but it isn't as "yellow" as the other colors you mentioned. Jaune Brilliant can go orange.
When I get home tonight I'll scan the page from the book and post the details. It's definately worth buying. I stumbled on it once. It shows full page color charts for all races including lips, eye colors, hair colors, etc and how to mix shadows and highlights for each. It breaks them all dwon by medium too-Oils, acrylics, watercolors and I think pastels. Excellent book.

Lou

 

[pkess]

Craig,
You can mix some Tit White with Mars Yellow. Not too much yellow, keep it pale. However, this mix is much more opaque than Naples Yellow. So, just a tiny dot and then blend thoroughly.

 

[Lou Masses]

Craig,

Attached are scans from the book. The author in the previous pages to these scans breaks down ethnic skintones based on "Pale", "midtone" (as shown here) and "Dark". Pale being the "WASP". Mid tone for Asians, Hispanics, etc and "Dark for African American. While the book delves into painting skintones on portraits in 2D, the applications can apply for us as well and personally the color charts alone were worth the purchase price.


The book is titled "How to paint skintones" By James Horton, North Light Books, ISBN 0-89134-670-8 $27.99


Hope this helps

 

[Franco]

Dear Lou,

Thank you very much for the page of the skin tone - I think this will prove very usful and I must try and get my hands on this book.

Does the book give you loads of colour breakdowns etc. on how to get all the tones? Does it make reference (like Bob Knee's book) to oil colours etc.?

Thanks again for the tips.

Cheers
Franco

 

[Mongo Mel]

Lou,
Thanks very much for posting the page and for the book info. I'm going to look for it. Sounds like a worthwhile book to have.
For pkess:
Thanks to you as well for the info. I think I'll be better off just buying the Naples Yellow (oh brother..yet another tube of oil paint )
Thanks to all that have taken time to post replies. Your advice and comments are greatly appreciated.
Craig

 

[Lou Masses]

Franco,

Yes it does. The chart section actually breaks out the different colors by the medium-ie Oil, Acrylic, watercolor and pastel. If you look at the chart closely (it's hard to see on the pic) it tells you what colors to combine to get what shade. Excellent book over all although in reality about 1/2 the pages aren't too usefull - they concentrate on 2D effects.

Lou

 

[garyjd]

Craig, another nicely done piece.~Gary

 

[Mongo Mel]

Lou,
Thanks for the info on the book. I just ordered it from Barnes & Noble.
$14.99 (US)
It's going to be a long week until it arrives.
Thanks again,
Craig

 

[Lou Masses]

$14.99!!!!

Damn. Bought it at Pearl last year, got hosed for the full $28.

Hope it helps and enjoy! Great stuff, love to see more of it.

Lou