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Lou Masses
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Thank you Manuel, however I will have to disagree with the catchlight statement. The catchlight is there as a scaled down reflection.
Using the theory of "If the eye is painted correctly it will catch the light source from what ever angle" then shading and highlighting is not necessary either because if painted correctly then the clothing would also catch the light source from what ever angle-but it would be out of scale.
What we are doing by painting a minaiture is expressing a period of time and setting. While not necessarily "correct", the painter should be trying to portray a light source in miniature. ie, the figure is painted to depict a man standing in a certain place at a certain time-not to catch reflections from say, an overhead flourescent light in a room it is displayed in. As everything else, the lightsource must be scaled down to the figure.
See Fletcher Clement's depiction of Michaelangelo's painting of the Cistine Chapel. The piece creates a mood and environment based on the lightsource he chose to employ. That is the difference between a technically well painted piece and one that comes to life to the viewer. In reality, most times the catchlight on an eye is not really "seen" by the viewer but causes the viewer to think the eye is real.
The technical term is called "Tromp L'oi" (not sure if that's spelled right) but translated means "trick of the eye".
With figures, we are creating an environment-it's not like a model car or plane in which scaled lightsources don't matter.
But of course, everyone is free to paint as they wish. This method just works for me and quite a few other painters in the hobby.
Using the theory of "If the eye is painted correctly it will catch the light source from what ever angle" then shading and highlighting is not necessary either because if painted correctly then the clothing would also catch the light source from what ever angle-but it would be out of scale.
What we are doing by painting a minaiture is expressing a period of time and setting. While not necessarily "correct", the painter should be trying to portray a light source in miniature. ie, the figure is painted to depict a man standing in a certain place at a certain time-not to catch reflections from say, an overhead flourescent light in a room it is displayed in. As everything else, the lightsource must be scaled down to the figure.
See Fletcher Clement's depiction of Michaelangelo's painting of the Cistine Chapel. The piece creates a mood and environment based on the lightsource he chose to employ. That is the difference between a technically well painted piece and one that comes to life to the viewer. In reality, most times the catchlight on an eye is not really "seen" by the viewer but causes the viewer to think the eye is real.
The technical term is called "Tromp L'oi" (not sure if that's spelled right) but translated means "trick of the eye".
With figures, we are creating an environment-it's not like a model car or plane in which scaled lightsources don't matter.
But of course, everyone is free to paint as they wish. This method just works for me and quite a few other painters in the hobby.
I agree with lou a catchlight is needed I think, though one big thing is to remeber to pop it into the same place in both eyes else he again looks a bit daft. You are aiming I think to aim your catchlight at your light source for your figure ie the light is coming from the same direction.
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Johan
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...in fact it is pronounced the way you wrote it there; it is written "trompe l'oeuil" though.
Lou Masses
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I knew my French was lacking....
Lou Masses
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Phil, the gloss coat thing on larger stuff also makes photography tricky (hence why my samurai bust looks crosseyed in the photo). That is also the only time I use gloss (120mm +).
I also forgot to mention that in large scale busts, after painting the "white" of the eye, I give it a very thin wash of terra rosa-just enough so it sits on the edges and in the corners-to tone down the whiteness of the eye and bring it in with the eyelids.
One thing though Phil, I do see a catchlight outdoors (checked on my lunch break), effectively coming from where the sun is.
I also forgot to mention that in large scale busts, after painting the "white" of the eye, I give it a very thin wash of terra rosa-just enough so it sits on the edges and in the corners-to tone down the whiteness of the eye and bring it in with the eyelids.
One thing though Phil, I do see a catchlight outdoors (checked on my lunch break), effectively coming from where the sun is.
Johan
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Ca, c'est moi - j'ai oublie de "log in" :lol:
Lou Masses
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I know it's you, but it doesn't look like you forgot to log in
Johan
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Honestly, I forgot to log on in the post on the previous page... perhaps you didn't notice
But it's funny though isn't it, old friend, how people get to know each other after a while, even if we never actually met?
... well, I don't know, my English isn't good enough maybe, but could this be such a case in which you English-speakers say ..."better the devil you know"?
But it's funny though isn't it, old friend, how people get to know each other after a while, even if we never actually met?
... well, I don't know, my English isn't good enough maybe, but could this be such a case in which you English-speakers say ..."better the devil you know"?
Lou Masses
A Fixture
I hadn't noticed. Your English is loads better than my French!
Johan
A Fixture
... Ah well.... the man in your avatar's Italian was better than his French, so don't feel bad about it - even that most sublime of Frenchmen couldn't write French without faults! (this is true, not kidding here)
Johan
Johan
Lou Masses
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Actually the photo in the avatar is me
Guy
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cough.............cough..............wipes coffee off of screen
Lou Masses
A Fixture
Thtop it.
Not as good as you in your Speedo bicycle pants and uniform shirt
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Johan
A Fixture
You OK, man? :lol:
Lou Masses
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No thanks Rog, it's only effective when being worn by someone employing a nightstick repeatedly on some innocent 32 year old immigrant
You evil, nasty man
You evil, nasty man
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