WIP Flats!

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Keep at it Graham ..I am Looking forward to seeing this come along ...all credit to you for doing flats ......

I however do agree that Oils would probably be the best medium for flats as commented on (blimey and me a acrylic painter as well!!!!)

Thanks for sharing

Nap
 
Lol, I just didn't get on with oils. I was probably using them wrong but if I can get to grips with Acrylic to a presentable standard then I may have a look at oils as a parallel learning curve :)
 
Lol, I just didn't get on with oils. I was probably using them wrong but if I can get to grips with Acrylic to a presentable standard then I may have a look at oils as a parallel learning curve :)


Hi Graham,

Have you seen the water soluable oils (W&N do some) ,I use those from Cobra , works as oils on their own and can be treated and used with Acrylics , mixaable as well.....

....just a thought

Nap
 
Great start, Graham! And you can't go wrong with tips from Roger!

A question occurs to me with the group flat--with a group like this, do you need to take the depth of the scene into account, as well as the direction of the light?

Prost!
Brad
 
Great start, Graham! And you can't go wrong with tips from Roger!

A question occurs to me with the group flat--with a group like this, do you need to take the depth of the scene into account, as well as the direction of the light?

Prost!
Brad

Probably, I am sure you need to take into account the shadows cast from the 'implied' roundness of the figure next to it. However, at this stage I will be happy if it is obvious as to what it's supposed to be lol
 
Hi Graham,

Have you seen the water soluable oils (W&N do some) ,I use those from Cobra , works as oils on their own and can be treated and used with Acrylics , mixaable as well.....

....just a thought

Nap

I first heard of these, believe it or not, in an article by Rodger. Sadly, I cannot remember what site it was on.... Water soluble oil sounds like a contradiction lol. Are they thinned with water then or just cleaned up afterwards with water? Again, I will have to do some digging around
 
I first heard of these, believe it or not, in an article by Rodger. Sadly, I cannot remember what site it was on.... Water soluble oil sounds like a contradiction lol. Are they thinned with water then or just cleaned up afterwards with water? Again, I will have to do some digging around


Neither can I!!
When I use water soluble oils I use Sansodor to thin them and water to clean my brushes etc. I wasn't overly happy with the results when thinning with water.

Roger.
 
Just been looking through a couple of, albeit artists videos, and one uses water soluble linseed oil to thin water oils and the others, like Roger, use a type of solvent to thin. Does this not remove the point of using water soluble oils other than easy brush cleaning or am I missing something?

Are oils thinned for figure painting as much as acrylics, I am assuming (probably wrongly) that you need to get them to an enamel paint stage as a starter or again, am I missing something?

I don't expect anyone to go in depth here, just a yay or nay and I will hit my good friend Google :)
 
To tell the truth when I buy paint now I go for proper oils, a. I prefer the consistency/texture and b. I haven't been rumbled using smelly paint in the dining room. It isn't even that smelly.

Depending on what I'm painting depends on how much I thin the paint Graham, sometimes it's like water other times straight from the tube.

Roger.
 
Graham! Oh! ... Oils I do like! ... .but this is for the morrow! however, Ron C, (Kagemusha) may pick up on this thread! ... Oh Boy! I would suggest you getting a pen and pad handy! .. :D

Mark
 
You paint with whatever you are comfortable with Graham there's no magic formula except practice..... but personally I feel my painting improved when I made the switch to oil. My first experiment was with a 21ml tube of Winton just to experiment with, nice and cheap and I'm still using it.

Roger.
 
Hi Graham......as far as flats are concerned....you won't get better advice than that on offer from Roger.
Where oils are concerned, I have used them, and abused them, for 37 years! :LOL:
So far.....I have resisted Roger's attempts to convert the figure world to 'flats' :rolleyes:
However, (thanks Mark :p) if I can help you with any tips on using oils, please ask.

Cheers

Ron
 
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