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Hi Guys

Lots of great subjects here for Rob to think about !...not only as busts but as full figures as well.........something to have in the ideas bank for future releases.

I think perhaps the best way to go after the deadline of 11th Feb might be to ask Rob to choose his favourite (3) and then we do a poll to choose the subject for Euro release ...

Appreciate any thoughts on this


Keep them coming

Nap
 
How about Sergeant Major Brittain the originator of "You 'orrible little man!"

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Lots of medals which will keep Kev happy :woot:

-Rich
 
Thank you all for the suggestions so far. There are a couple that really appeal and one vignette that will definitely appear in the 54mm range at some point.
I like the fact that some of the subjects are away from the conventional.
I know I'm being greedy, but do keep them coming.
 
Hi Nap,

I think some have already been depicted. I have provided some Australian colonial units (British Commonwealth), Paul has suggested Corps Auxiliaire Danois, Valiant has suggested some Indian Army figures, and you have provided a couple of Gurkhas (British Commonwealth), and Regiment Oldenberg (Napoleonic). Perhaps some colonial units from other British Commonwealth countries might also be considered. Come on our Canadian, South African, and New Zealand PF members!

With due respect to those who posted them, some suggestions are simply variations of units that are already in the market, either as busts or figures, for example several of the British and Napoleonic units suggested. A Napoleonic Bavarian figure is currently being produced as seen on another thread on PF, and Maurice Corry has sculpted some outstanding British Crimean busts and figures. I was going to suggest the New South Wales Lancers 1900, but Naked Army already does a superb figure of that unit. With the wonderful skills on this forum, some of the suggestions can be modified from existing figures, or simply different paint schemes with minor changes to an available figure.

I am not pushing my own suggestions. All I am saying is: rather than a variation on units that are already on the market, why not do something that hasn't been done before? Rob has provided us with an exceptional offer, and we ought to think outside the current paradigm, and give him some suggestions that sets his work apart from the rest.

Just a thought.

Cheers
Chris
 
Hi Chris

Totally agree with Robs sculpting skills being as good as they are the lesser known units like Colonial etc woukd be an interesting option .

Looking at what Rob has posted looks like he has ideas on vignettes and busts ...

As you said bring those suggestions out guys

Nap
 
Just a quick point,the project has to have that commercial appeal or Rob is going to have a hard time selling the piece. He's going to have to cover the cost of producing the kit. It's great to see some wonderful subjects but at the end of the day Rob has to make something out of it even if it's just to cover the cost of production. I can see the point of being different but you have to add the risk element. I know we have taken chances on some of our releases.

I just thought I would say that if rob goes for a middle of the road option it's not that the other ideas are bad but it's a question of will it sell. I can't say that Rob will look at it like that it's just my thoughts on the subject of picking the right subject when you are looking at a commercial release.

Cheers

Ian

www.elliesminiatures.com
 
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I have done me detention for 2 1/2 hours, I managed to finish the head.
 
the project has to have that commercial appeal or Rob is going to have a hard time selling the piece.
Cheers
Ian

www.elliesminiatures.com

I hear what you say Ian, and heartily agree it must be commercially successful. However, are you saying that another repetition of a British (19th Century), or Napoleonic French bust or figure (I hope Rob considers a figure as well) is likely to sell better than something unique that fits within the Commonwealth and Napoleonic categories? The market has a good many British and French Napoleonics, and I would have thought punters would be attracted to something quite different. Are we just stuck in a rut and not prepared to get out of our comfort zones? I think not. I was delighted to see Chronos hit the market with Russian Napoleonics, and their other unique figures, and others were attracted to them as well.

The biggest problem I see commercially is the increasing number of truly superb figures coming out every month, yours included, for a market that is quite small. We are spoilt for choice on the quality available like never before, and I can't keep up with those I would like to have. So buying another British or French Napoleonic is not an option for me; I already have enough in my grey army. What I am looking for is something quite unique, and probably there are others who feel the same way. Given Rob's skills he is likely to make it quite an attractive action figure or an engaging pose.

What do other members think?

Best wishes
Chris
 
I agree 100% with you Chris, absolutely spot on.


Got it in one there ..but company's produce figures they hope will sell which obviously certain areas will , some however look outside the box for something different ..RP Models for one comes to mind

Perhaps this question coukd be put into its own thread as well

Nap
 
Hi Chris
You make a valid point, But as a commercial venture you have to be very careful about what you bring to the market. once you have a range that is established then going down the different subject road is a bit more viable. it's down to investment. some companies commission sculptors to do work . This is not cheep by any stretch of the imagination. that being the case you want something that is going to sell well in the first few weeks of release as you have to make your investment back. it's a small hobby and lots of competition so playing it safe is sometimes something that has to be done.

If you sculpt and produce yourself then the cost is down quite a bit and you are able maybe to take a chance on other subjects away from the norm. I know we have done that quite a few times but that's us being in a position to have be able to do that that.

my point was that all the ideas are great and very welcome,but sometimes a little bit of caution can go along way. hey I'm sure what ever Rob decides, it will be great and I'm sure we at Ellie's and other companies will bring out different subject along the way. but it will always be a case of will it have the appeal to sell will it have a big enough market for us to invest in. yes it's great to get out of the rut and I wish more people would do that.

Cheers

Ian

www.elliesminiatures.com
 
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