WIP Critique Highlander c.XII 75mm Pegaso
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Aveleira
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I'm kind of lost now... Colours or earthly tones? My idea was red and green...kind of how it is on the art box.
But don't know where to turn to for a visual guide...
Regards
Pedro
But don't know where to turn to for a visual guide...
Regards
Pedro
Ron Tamburrini
A Fixture
Look at some of the Celt ,Germanic style check come tartans and you will be ok
garyhiggins
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Hi Pedro, regarding Braveheart, I saw an interview with the writer in which he said that he "did not want the facts to get in the way of the essential truth of the story" so much for that then ,Ha!!!
Seriously though, don't forget that the highlands are not known for their sunshine and warm breezes, cold and wet and foggy, and also, after Culloden the English had a policy of abolishing Scottish heritage ( highland clearances, banning the tartan etc.) so anything you see from the 19th century is a re-creation and can't be trusted as genuinely medieval.
Best wishes, Gary.
Seriously though, don't forget that the highlands are not known for their sunshine and warm breezes, cold and wet and foggy, and also, after Culloden the English had a policy of abolishing Scottish heritage ( highland clearances, banning the tartan etc.) so anything you see from the 19th century is a re-creation and can't be trusted as genuinely medieval.
Best wishes, Gary.
garyhiggins
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P.S. the painting looks fine, and it is a lovely model.
Ron Tamburrini
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One great thing about this forum apart from all the splendid models and modellers here ! is that it encourages one to look at different periods of history out with your chosen interest.
This thread on Pedro's search for clarity on highland dress has caused me to look a lot closer at this subject and draw the conclusion that Clan Tartans are a load of nonsense
invented by the Victorians and the Plaid kilt was in existence for a very short period indeed; and that the little kilt that exists in its modern form was actually invented by an Englishman
Conclusion Pedro ,go for earthy colours ,there was little time and dyes available in Scotland for fancy patterns due to the harsh climate ,these poor souls were soaked thru "drookit"most of the time . Even in this modern age I have come home from work every day last week soaked thru to the drawers
This thread on Pedro's search for clarity on highland dress has caused me to look a lot closer at this subject and draw the conclusion that Clan Tartans are a load of nonsense
invented by the Victorians and the Plaid kilt was in existence for a very short period indeed; and that the little kilt that exists in its modern form was actually invented by an Englishman
Conclusion Pedro ,go for earthy colours ,there was little time and dyes available in Scotland for fancy patterns due to the harsh climate ,these poor souls were soaked thru "drookit"most of the time . Even in this modern age I have come home from work every day last week soaked thru to the drawers
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Even in this modern age I have come home from work every day last week soaked thru to the drawers
They've got tablets and lots of other helpful discreet products for that these days, Ron.
Ron Tamburrini
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Aveleira
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Thank You guys for all your tips, suggestions, opinions.
Well, my own research led me to conclude something similar to what you siad. In particular Ron, I also read that about the clan tartans, it's kind of ironic. And about your suggestion to look for celtic and germanic tartans I found out that they also had some colours, yellows, light blues, greens.
Another conclusion is that what is possible tha in this time they didn't have is the complicated tartan designs like the cameron of erracht, but they probably had something like this:
So, the colours of celtic and germanic cloth plus this desing, give me a diverse range of colours.
The earthly tones are certainly correct. And now comes the usual dilema: truth or a little twist to give a more beautifull figure? Because this:
Pops out way more than the above....
By the way, is also possible that they already had this desing and colours, or maybe more simple than this (which was my idea), because the codification of designs happened in XVIII century. Repeat codification, which is not creation. So,it's possible. What I'm thinking is a dark red, something more like brick red, not the english red, whith green stipes, making a more simple sett.
See this figures here from pegaso, representing barbarian warrior that have several different colours, and yet are great:
Maybe I go with this simple sett (the first is not so simple, almost burberry's tartan).
Regards
Pedro
Well, my own research led me to conclude something similar to what you siad. In particular Ron, I also read that about the clan tartans, it's kind of ironic. And about your suggestion to look for celtic and germanic tartans I found out that they also had some colours, yellows, light blues, greens.
Another conclusion is that what is possible tha in this time they didn't have is the complicated tartan designs like the cameron of erracht, but they probably had something like this:
So, the colours of celtic and germanic cloth plus this desing, give me a diverse range of colours.
The earthly tones are certainly correct. And now comes the usual dilema: truth or a little twist to give a more beautifull figure? Because this:
Pops out way more than the above....
By the way, is also possible that they already had this desing and colours, or maybe more simple than this (which was my idea), because the codification of designs happened in XVIII century. Repeat codification, which is not creation. So,it's possible. What I'm thinking is a dark red, something more like brick red, not the english red, whith green stipes, making a more simple sett.
See this figures here from pegaso, representing barbarian warrior that have several different colours, and yet are great:
Maybe I go with this simple sett (the first is not so simple, almost burberry's tartan).
Regards
Pedro
Ron Tamburrini
A Fixture
Look forward to seeing the finish figure Pedro
Ron
Footnote All Scots don't have Red Hair
Ron
Footnote All Scots don't have Red Hair
Aveleira
A Fixture
Look forward to seeing the finish figure Pedro
Ron
Footnote All Scots don't have Red Hair
Me too, not so easy to choose. About the hair I tried a basecoat to go with blonde, but don't like it. I'm going with brown...
Regards
Pedro
Whatever you choose Pedro I'm sure it will look superb.
Carl.
Carl.
garyhiggins
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Since I am about to speak heresy, I am doing it in a bunker with a tin hat on (alright, its a saucepan, but you get the idea).
The point of history in modelling is not so much what you can prove, but what someone else can't disprove! Translation: any colour you like so long as it isn't flourescent.
Best wishes, Gary.
The point of history in modelling is not so much what you can prove, but what someone else can't disprove! Translation: any colour you like so long as it isn't flourescent.
Best wishes, Gary.
Ron Tamburrini
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garyhiggins
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Ouch, that hurt!!!!
