How do you figure out what colors to use?

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Adam Baker

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I think this one question is probably the biggest one I have, about doing figures.

I know there are some books out there that offer charts of recommended colors such as the Modeling Waffen-SS figures that I have, that I'm going to be using to paint 2 of the figures I'm using. However, it only gives suggestions for the camo. No suggestions are given for gear, trousers, etc.

So, how do people source colors and decide what to use?
 
Adam, all experienced painters have dealt with this, so don't think you're alone in voicing this issue. As such, the answers will likely run the gamut from "figure it out yourself" to "there are 72 steps in this procedure, each of which must be followed precisely".

You mentioned a specific historical figure, so the first step is pictures - books or internet. Be careful not to fall prey to "analysis paralysis" - find a decent image that shows the uniform, and keep it (or them) as your primary source. Turning up 200 images via a Google search wastes time you could be painting. Many kits include basic color info for the uniform depicted - decide on your pallet, and start painting.

Next, look for artwork that might show your subject uniform. I don't do your period, but I've often relied on good historical artists (Don Troiani, Keith Rocco, John Griffing) to give me the uniform info I couldn't get via photos (cameras apparently weren't issued during the American Revolution . . .). Again, pick one image, and get painting.

In addition, search the Archives here (and, if you must, on other sites) to see if someone else has painted your figure. You might get lucky and find that someone has provided color recipes for whatever medium you intend to use (acrylics, oils, enamels, Crayola . . .), or might be willing to provide same if asked nicely. If the info's available, start slapping the pigment around. If not, forge ahead anyway, with your best guesses!

Beyond the basic uniform details, you need to develop the ability to paint the generic components of most every figure - eyes, skin, hair, leather, metal. There are tutorials and step-by-step (SBS) articles here for each of these - search them out, and practice, practice, practice.

If there's a modeling store, or club, in your area, make contact and see who is willing to provide some advice. In my experience, most painters are more than willing to chat about what they do. Paint something, and ask for critiques.

You already have an excellent resource at your fingertips - the Planet! Paint something, post an image, and ask questions - the more specific, the better - and see if the responses make sense to you.

Using Malcolm Gladwell's concept of the 10,000 Hours, if this is your first figure, you have much to learn, so GET PAINTING. Some folks start with simple figures and ramp up. Others jump right in with major projects. Regardless of which approach fits you, this much is true - your 5th figure will be better than your first, and your 10th will be better than your 5th, etc.

Uniform details are one thing. Color is a completely different subject. We each see color differently, whether we know it or not. Add to that the vagaries of printing/reproduction processes, plus variations in computer monitors, and myths and/or facts of making/delivering clothes to warriors, and we quickly come to the conclusion that the search for the "right color" can be, at times, a fool's errand.

Find a source (image, print, description), select a medium, and get painting.

Within reason, don't worry what the "Color Police" may say about your choices. Finish the figure, listen to the commentary, absorb any crit that appears valid and incorporate it into your NEXT figure, and disregard the stuff that appears to lack validity.

And lastly, ENJOY the process.

Sorry for the sermon, if that's what it sounded like - that wasn't my original intent. Best of luck, and keep your brush wet!
 
Adam
The 'sermon' Don just gave is probably the best all round piece of advice no matter what level of skill you possess. Take his advice to heart and you will find you will enjoy this hobby and improve with every figure. Get the main techniques down first then deal with the details.
My only addition to the above advice is keep notes on your colour mixes as you figure them out. Before long you will have a personal library of specific mix 'recipes'. If you work mostly in one era or subject (ie WW II German or French Napoleonics... whatever) you will find yourself using alot of the same colours, or a variation thereof often, so when you need, say, the feldgrau particular to artillery gunners in 1940 on the Western front.... go to your notes and there it is, Feldgrau- artilley 1940. Does that make sense?
If you can't figure out the best way to get a colour you want, post a question in the painting forum and you'll get lots of answers... try them and keep what works for you.

Let me know how things go

Colin
 
Don, not a sermon at all, just some very very good advice.

outrunthedogs, thanks for the links, I'll definitely take a look at what they have to offer.

Colin, I like the idea of keeping the mixing notes, so its something I'll definitely start doing, starting w/ this set of figures that I'm hoping to start this evening. I'm going to be going to my LHS to get the paints this evening.
 
I know there are some books out there that offer charts of recommended colors such as the Modeling Waffen-SS figures that I have, that I'm going to be using to paint 2 of the figures I'm using. However, it only gives suggestions for the camo. No suggestions are given for gear, trousers, etc.
Just on this Adam, beyond the basics of what colour to use as a base you also have to then figure out/decide on what to use to lighten it and darken it, for highlights and shadows.

Even if you imagine painting everything just one flat colour with no shading, do be aware from the outset that there are no fixed colours for just about anything - apart from uniforms making a bit of a joke of the word uniform, you can choose to paint more 'cleanly' or brightly if it suits you, or alternatively use duller or dirtier colours, go lighter/darker etc. It's really up to you at the end of the day.

You have to begin somewhere of course and the best way is to decide on some paints and start there.

I'd suggest trying to avoid a common beginner error of getting every colour under the sun and thinking this will make your life easier. Initially it might be some help but the more paints you have the harder it is to learn how they all mix, to the point that if you have too many - even just 30 or so - you may never get around to figuring out how they all intermix.

Although you can paint very generically and do very little actual mixing I would recommend right from the beginning learning to mix at least some things from a smaller set of core colours, to make mixing part of your regular painting procedure because mixing is a really critical skill to develop, for most painters (see first point, about highlights and shadows).

Adam, all experienced painters have dealt with this, so don't think you're alone in voicing this issue. As such, the answers will likely run the gamut from "figure it out yourself" to "there are 72 steps in this procedure, each of which must be followed precisely".
:D Nicely put.

Einion
 
i personally use vallejo paints for my figures, because they tend to do "matched" ranges for the era i paint, i.e WWII and modern era, and the colours are quite accurate.

Other than that, i have citadel paints for mixing, again the colours are quite good and there is a lot of scope with these paints.

But, the colours themselves needn't really be an issue, there are plenty of techniques which can brighten or dull colours if you deem it necessary, such as washes or dry brushing.

Washes can darken the colours where as dry brushing with a lighter colour can lighten the overall appearance of the paint. Indeed, even some varnishes will darken the overall colour slightly.
 
Don's 'sermon' was spot on. I for one am quite severely colour blind (or so I am told) so I see colour much differently than normal homo sapiens. I therefore struggle some times with bright uniform colours. I was told once, by a very famous miniature painter, that a uniform colour is only 'correct' for a brief moment in time. As soon as it is packaged for transit, handled, worn or cleaned/washed the colour changes. It is also effected by the light according to the time of day, season of the year, location in the world. He told me not to have any hangups about my colour perception because at some point in time my interpretation will be 100 percent correct.
 
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