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Anders Heintz
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Hi Julie!
First of all welcome to planet Figure! You will find all the help you need here
As far as your question, I dont think there is a simple answer to that one. I would think the more you practise and more you experiment the better you will get. It also would depend on how fast you learn and how much effort you put into it. If you post your work here you will get a lot of constructive critisism which will help a lot.
Which medium you choose don't really matter as there are people who paint extrodinary in all kinds of differen mediums. The main thing is that you are comfortable with what ever you choose to use.
Again, welcome to pF and Im looking forward to see some of your work!
First of all welcome to planet Figure! You will find all the help you need here
As far as your question, I dont think there is a simple answer to that one. I would think the more you practise and more you experiment the better you will get. It also would depend on how fast you learn and how much effort you put into it. If you post your work here you will get a lot of constructive critisism which will help a lot.
Which medium you choose don't really matter as there are people who paint extrodinary in all kinds of differen mediums. The main thing is that you are comfortable with what ever you choose to use.
Again, welcome to pF and Im looking forward to see some of your work!
Guy
A Fixture
Welcome Julie,
I hope you find your membership to pf an enjoyable one and your skills grow as ours have. We all learn from each other, whether you are just starting or an old timer like myself. I can learn from you as much as you from me. That is the purpose here and my painting skills have taken another jump with the help of pf.
As far as which medium, that you will discover yourself as you become comfortable using each. I use both acrylics, tube oils, and enamels, depending on the effect I am trying to achieve. If you see another members photo of their figure posted here and you like the effect he/she achieved.....just ask "howd you do that?" and you will get your answer in depth. The fact that you are one of the rare females that pursue this hobby has no bearing here. You are a painter.....and belong here as much as anyone else.
Guy
I hope you find your membership to pf an enjoyable one and your skills grow as ours have. We all learn from each other, whether you are just starting or an old timer like myself. I can learn from you as much as you from me. That is the purpose here and my painting skills have taken another jump with the help of pf.
As far as which medium, that you will discover yourself as you become comfortable using each. I use both acrylics, tube oils, and enamels, depending on the effect I am trying to achieve. If you see another members photo of their figure posted here and you like the effect he/she achieved.....just ask "howd you do that?" and you will get your answer in depth. The fact that you are one of the rare females that pursue this hobby has no bearing here. You are a painter.....and belong here as much as anyone else.
Guy
John Long
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Hey Julie, Welcome to the planet. I've been painting figures for roughly eight years. I've gotten into sculpting in the last four or so. For some people the learning curve is steeper than others. There's alot of talent here and people are very helpful. Don't be afraid to ask anything.
There are actually several women painters out there. I don't if any are members here. Penny Meyer is one I know personally, & she is top-notch as a person and a painter.
There are actually several women painters out there. I don't if any are members here. Penny Meyer is one I know personally, & she is top-notch as a person and a painter.
Richard E
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Hi Julie.
That's one of those "how long is a piece of string" questions.
it depends on how much you practise I guess, I personally have been painting for about 4 or 5 years and sculpting for just over a year, always want to improve, but know that anything I do will never be perfect.
As for the medium, best I can say is try them all and find what you work best with, but I think the general consensus is acrylics or oils.
Richard
That's one of those "how long is a piece of string" questions.
it depends on how much you practise I guess, I personally have been painting for about 4 or 5 years and sculpting for just over a year, always want to improve, but know that anything I do will never be perfect.
As for the medium, best I can say is try them all and find what you work best with, but I think the general consensus is acrylics or oils.
Richard
quang
A Fixture
Hello Julie,
As you may know, we, old-timers, started as lonely, isolated practitioners. We were self-taught and learned it the hard way. That's the main reason why some of us became gruff, grumpy, 'difficult' characters.
Not anymore, with the internet and especially sites like this one where you can find support, help and emulation, you will progress in leaps and bounds (while hopefully retaining all your warm and humane qualities)! :lol:
Welcome to the planet!
Quang
As you may know, we, old-timers, started as lonely, isolated practitioners. We were self-taught and learned it the hard way. That's the main reason why some of us became gruff, grumpy, 'difficult' characters.
Not anymore, with the internet and especially sites like this one where you can find support, help and emulation, you will progress in leaps and bounds (while hopefully retaining all your warm and humane qualities)! :lol:
Welcome to the planet!
Quang
MSzwarc
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Welcome, Julie,
I'm a relative newbie myself, having been in the hobby less than two years, both painting and attempting to learn to sculpt. I'm more comfortable with the sculpting end right now, but still just learning. Like most have said so far, practice, asking questions, and looking at how others do things is the key to learning.
Finding time to practice , and focusing on the project at hand are the hardest parts for me. The more I learn, the more ideas come to mind. The more ideas, the more distracted I become, to the point of letting a new idea become a project that takes over my time . Oh well, as long as I'm learning, I'm happy .
Mike
I'm a relative newbie myself, having been in the hobby less than two years, both painting and attempting to learn to sculpt. I'm more comfortable with the sculpting end right now, but still just learning. Like most have said so far, practice, asking questions, and looking at how others do things is the key to learning.
Finding time to practice
, and focusing on the project at hand are the hardest parts for me. The more I learn, the more ideas come to mind. The more ideas, the more distracted I become, to the point of letting a new idea become a project that takes over my time . Oh well, as long as I'm learning, I'm happy .Mike
Hi Julie
It is a difficult question! I've been painting for over twenty years but have only finished a few figures. I met hardy at Euro militaire this year and he had 9 figures to enter, more than in my collection! Practice and a willingness to learn from your mistakes is essential! this site I hope can help you.
If you have any questions of us, don't be afriad to ask.
Rob
It is a difficult question! I've been painting for over twenty years but have only finished a few figures. I met hardy at Euro militaire this year and he had 9 figures to enter, more than in my collection! Practice and a willingness to learn from your mistakes is essential! this site I hope can help you.
If you have any questions of us, don't be afriad to ask.
Rob
simon1969
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John,
If you have cookies enabled in your browser, next time you actually remember to log in
click the "remember me on this computer" bit! You'll never have to log in again! (unless you delete your cookies that is)Simon
quang
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John,
About the cookies.
These are not speculoos. You're NOT supposed to eat 'em.
Quang
Joe Hudson
A Fixture
Welcome Julie,
I have a friend who I am trying to talk her into joining the group. She is very talented both painting and sculpting. I have been painting for about 10 years give or take I just recently gave sculpting a go. I think you will pick up a lot from this site and always ask if you have any questions. There are so many talented folks here and all have been willing to help. I look forward to seeing some of your work. One other thing, go to the shows and if you have a club or just someone near try to attend or get together.
Joe
I have a friend who I am trying to talk her into joining the group. She is very talented both painting and sculpting. I have been painting for about 10 years give or take I just recently gave sculpting a go. I think you will pick up a lot from this site and always ask if you have any questions. There are so many talented folks here and all have been willing to help. I look forward to seeing some of your work. One other thing, go to the shows and if you have a club or just someone near try to attend or get together.
Joe
Hi all,
I also spoke to Hardy and was very surprised at his 8 figures for the year. It seems like its practice practice practice! But is'nt there a tiny bit of magic from the artist added. Originality seems to be a little overlooked nowadays, emulation made easier through how to articles and the internet. Im not advocating a Picasso of the figure world but at least some differences in style.
I also spoke to Hardy and was very surprised at his 8 figures for the year. It seems like its practice practice practice! But is'nt there a tiny bit of magic from the artist added. Originality seems to be a little overlooked nowadays, emulation made easier through how to articles and the internet. Im not advocating a Picasso of the figure world but at least some differences in style.
MSzwarc
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Julie,
I believe there are quite a few original styles out there. I'm a newbie, but I can usually recognize the work of Mike Blank, Marion Ebensperger, Bill Horan, Guy Herrick, or François(?) Verlinden. Many of the Russian artists whose work I have seen have very distinct and flamboyant styles. I think people try to emulate the work of others because they are trying to learn the necessary skills. Once a level of skill is attained, I believe a personal style naturally develops .
Mike
I believe there are quite a few original styles out there. I'm a newbie, but I can usually recognize the work of Mike Blank, Marion Ebensperger, Bill Horan, Guy Herrick, or François(?) Verlinden. Many of the Russian artists whose work I have seen have very distinct and flamboyant styles. I think people try to emulate the work of others because they are trying to learn the necessary skills. Once a level of skill is attained, I believe a personal style naturally develops
.Mike
Richard E
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Hi Julie
To a point, it's not about originality it's about realsim. If this was conceptual art I'd just cut a figure in half drop it in a tank of formaldehyde and sell it to Charles Saatchi for a few thousand
I now what you mean about emulation though, but an individual style (which you can see in certain painters) is only gained through practise, and finding a medium that works best for you.
Richard
To a point, it's not about originality it's about realsim. If this was conceptual art I'd just cut a figure in half drop it in a tank of formaldehyde and sell it to Charles Saatchi for a few thousand
I now what you mean about emulation though, but an individual style (which you can see in certain painters) is only gained through practise, and finding a medium that works best for you.
Richard
Me too, but at my second visit to Euro I again witnessed the massed ranks of similar painted figures. But the likes of Bill Horan and Mike Blank as usual stand out, not because they are radically different but because they are exceptionally well executed. I think their finished product is very similar but there approach (style) is very different. Emulation to me is a very dead cul-de-sac, very much like painting by numbers. But of course this is a personal opinion
Hi
But where do you start if not by emulating, you read all the articles you can and try the techniques and often through misunderstanding you get your own style, you have to get better or disillusionment sets in.
Bill Horan and Mike are two of my favourite artists, but they started somewhere and read articles and had pointers from the greats that went before them most still around , Shep Paine for example.
I have improved my face painting by sitting in at a seminar by David Lane, no one can copy a style, using techniques is not to my mind copying its cashing in on others practice and mistakes and to be fair when and if we get that good we will or should give it back, its what makes our hobby so good.
Bills figures look like they could walk off, like Latorres they are so life like Mikes are just the same,Richard is right the realism is there if in all the movementand in that real special skill potraying a relaxed figure, All three of the latter artists can do it, make a figure look completely at ease, what a special skill that is.
Shane who comes here, Joe Hudson, Guy Herrick, Hardy and of course GaryJD and Gordy all masters in the making if not already, all pass on what they can in my mind knowing that thats where they got the start from the right grounding. So don't knock emulation it gives you the confidence to grow into a Mike Blank or Bill Horan
Robin
But where do you start if not by emulating, you read all the articles you can and try the techniques and often through misunderstanding you get your own style, you have to get better or disillusionment sets in.
Bill Horan and Mike are two of my favourite artists, but they started somewhere and read articles and had pointers from the greats that went before them most still around , Shep Paine for example.
I have improved my face painting by sitting in at a seminar by David Lane, no one can copy a style, using techniques is not to my mind copying its cashing in on others practice and mistakes and to be fair when and if we get that good we will or should give it back, its what makes our hobby so good.
Bills figures look like they could walk off, like Latorres they are so life like Mikes are just the same,Richard is right the realism is there if in all the movementand in that real special skill potraying a relaxed figure, All three of the latter artists can do it, make a figure look completely at ease, what a special skill that is.
Shane who comes here, Joe Hudson, Guy Herrick, Hardy and of course GaryJD and Gordy all masters in the making if not already, all pass on what they can in my mind knowing that thats where they got the start from the right grounding. So don't knock emulation it gives you the confidence to grow into a Mike Blank or Bill Horan
Robin
Hi Robin
Where does talent come into the equation, I think Bill horan and Mike blank and the up and coming Hardy are at the higher levels not because of emulation but talent. For example most people can draw but a few draw well. Im not knocking emulation..... but lets not paint the whole of this colourful world white.
Where does talent come into the equation, I think Bill horan and Mike blank and the up and coming Hardy are at the higher levels not because of emulation but talent. For example most people can draw but a few draw well. Im not knocking emulation..... but lets not paint the whole of this colourful world white.
Guy
A Fixture
Julie,
Many of the names I'll mention are not familiar to the figure painters today but were the notable artist of the day when I started figure painting. Many Sunday afternoons were spent with Joe Keenan while I watched a young Master paint figures from his world in a wheel chair. Although I could never copy his style, he was one of the driving influences on me at the time. Many of his techniques he applied, I still use. Many weekend afternoons were spent watching Henri Lions work his majic on a figurine and alot of his techniques I use today. The begginning techniques of a newcomer called Shep Paine and how he could transform a figure to a work of art to be viewed through a matted opening called a boxed diorama. The many techniques learned right on a showroom floor where Andrie K. taught me the simple technique of drybrushing on the back of his business card with a simple drawing. It is all of these techniques I learned, copied, emulated.........and combined into bringing my own style (if it is a style I have) into being. I copied many and turned all into "My Way", as Henri would say. If not for this reason only......would I turn around and pass on to others through this forum.....so that you can develop your style from what you learn from Hardy, Stephen, Joe, Simon, and the many artist that will help you find "Your Way"
Guy
Many of the names I'll mention are not familiar to the figure painters today but were the notable artist of the day when I started figure painting. Many Sunday afternoons were spent with Joe Keenan while I watched a young Master paint figures from his world in a wheel chair. Although I could never copy his style, he was one of the driving influences on me at the time. Many of his techniques he applied, I still use. Many weekend afternoons were spent watching Henri Lions work his majic on a figurine and alot of his techniques I use today. The begginning techniques of a newcomer called Shep Paine and how he could transform a figure to a work of art to be viewed through a matted opening called a boxed diorama. The many techniques learned right on a showroom floor where Andrie K. taught me the simple technique of drybrushing on the back of his business card with a simple drawing. It is all of these techniques I learned, copied, emulated.........and combined into bringing my own style (if it is a style I have) into being. I copied many and turned all into "My Way", as Henri would say. If not for this reason only......would I turn around and pass on to others through this forum.....so that you can develop your style from what you learn from Hardy, Stephen, Joe, Simon, and the many artist that will help you find "Your Way"
Guy
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