'In Memoriam' or 'In spiration'

[DEL]

One of my all time favourite threads...... here's a link to earlier posts on the subject
http://www.planetfigure.com/threads/one-stop-shop.51547/#post-515669

 

[billyturnip]

Here is something a little bit different. Church effigies are a great source of inspiration and I don't think we've touched on them yet. To come across one that still has some of the paintwork intact is quite unusual. This one is in St. Mary's Church, Masham, North Yorkshire.
Facebookers might know this is the church I was married in.

Sir Marmaduke Wyvill 1617 son of Christopher Wyvill and Margaret Scrope, was involved in the Rebellion of the Northern Earls in 1569 but was pardoned by Elizabeth I. He became MP for Richmond in 1585 and 1597-8 and was created a baronet by James I in 1611.
Marmaduke was the grandson of Agnes daughter of Sir Ralph FitzRandolph of Spennithorpe (1533) and Sir Marmaduke Wyvill, 1553
Marmaduke was the son of Christopher Wyvill of Constable Burton (d. 1579) and Margaret daughter of Henry le Scrope, Lord of Bolton)

 

[peedee]

It's also one of my favoutite memorials Del.
Thanks for the reminder we have had some fantastic contributions, spme touching, some breathtaking.
thanks mate...hope you are over the worst of it Del.

Paul.

 

[peedee]

Roger ...... wow what a great idea... love that.
More please.
Paul.

 

[billyturnip]

This is one is a beauty.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/spenvalleywanderer/3930774861

 

[peedee]

The near one is Roger.....
the far one is far too hairy for my taste!

Thanks for sharing it.

Paul.

 

[billyturnip]

The near one is Roger.....
the far one is far too hairy for my taste!

Thanks for sharing it.

Paul.

We cater for all tastes Paul.

 

[IronMike]

Heres another, not so glamourous but, poignant ideed. It's the grave of an unkown Confederate Soldier buried at the old site of St James Church at Brandy Station, VA. St James was the center of part of the opening action at the cavalry battle at Brandy Station in 1863. It seems that the site was also a camp ground the previous summer and this young soldier passed there. By the date of Aug 1862 it looks like this happened right after Cedar Mtn with is about 10 miles south of Brandy Station (Culpeper, VA) or just before the Second Manassas Campaign. Either way, someone, I believe the parishoners of St James, saw fit to mark it. Considering the unit the man was probably from Louisiana and very far from home. It's interesting becasue the original church no longer exisits there. The only thing that remains is an outline and a small cemetery. The parish which moved at some point still maintains the cemetery. We were made aware of this during our APG tour of Brandy Station in 2014. To the casual observer it's just a clump of trees in the middle of a battlefield saved by preservationists. BTW - Developers have made several efforts to develop this property. Once, with a race track and other times with various warehouses etc. This man along with any others would have been lost forever.

 

[IronMike]

Another marker about 25 miles from St James Church. This one at Chancellorsville. Ironically this simple marker lies within about 15 feet from the monument to Stonewall Jackson and his wounding on May 2nd 1863. One man went on to become an icon and hero the other known only but to God. My assumption is that the US soldier died during the fighting on May 2nd. Who interred him is a mystery to me. The confederates owned that ground on May 3rd. Perhaps he was buried by them shortly after. BTW- The monument to Jackson doesn't mark the site where Jackson was shot. That location as identify by the National Park Service is about 100 yards to the east of this marker.

 

[peedee]

Wonderful stories Mike.

Sincere thanks for your thoughtful postings.

Paul.

 

[IronMike]

One more. This is the site of an cemetery at Bristoe Station, VA where the remains of around 100 Alabama troops are interned. Part of the Confederate Army which included troops from many states camped here during the winter of 1861-1862. The men interred here died from disease that winter. It's also the site of the Battle of Bristoe Station in Oct 1863. Close by is the suspected location of a Mississippi cemetery. Once again the site was saved by preservationists with an agreement between them and the developer to build only on a portion of the field and with the remaining becoming a park. "Audemus jura nostra defendere" We dare defend our rights.

 

[billyturnip]

Interesting stuff Mike, thanks for posting.

 

[peedee]

Hi Mike.

You know....sometimes the simplest memorials say the most.

I cannot imagine anyone who walks here not being affected by it, and offering total respect to what is represented.

Thank you.

Paul.

 

[IronMike]

Anywhere the Civil War was fought here has these memorials. I know of a half a dozen places where graves are still tended by property owners in they're backyards. Many are unmarked except for a stone or simple marker that might say "Confederate Soldier". (Most known US soldiers were reinteered in Federal Cemeteries after the war.)I once relic hunted in the woods next to an old house on an 1864 cavalry battlefield. I noticed about 6 ot 7 depressions in a row all about the same size . I thought it might have been an old garden and for some reason stayed away. A few years later a guy in N Carolina showed me some graves on a dry spot in a swamp outside of New Bern, NC. They were identical to what I had found near the old house. I remembered the feeling I got to stay away from them and got a cold chill up my spine. Bad juju.

 

[IronMike]

The story, as I heard it, was that Washington, after his victory at Princeton, left a guard to watch over the casualties, from both sides, to keep them from harm. This included the dead. He supposedly left a note to Cornwallis stating that and hoped he would care for them as he did. This is the memorial to the soldiers of both sides on the Princeton Battlefield. I've never been there myself but have become fascinated by the site for years. The APG got involved in helping stay the development of part of the battlefield by the Institute for Advance Studies. We will be hosting a tour of the battlefield on May 19th as part of our fundraiser and MFCA Show.

From the internet. Located behind the Colonnade on the north side of the Park is a circular stone patio with a plaque upon written is a poem composed in 1916 by Alfred Noyes, then a visiting Princeton professor and, later, Poet Laureate of England. The engraving also indicates that both British and American dead from the battle are buried nearby. The exact location of the grave in unknown but an eyewitness recorded that 21 British and 15 American soldiers were buried in "an old stone quarry in a wash along the ridge".

 

[peedee]

A nice sentiment Mike.

Thanks a lot.

I would hope you might find the time in May to present us with some photos of your trip....I hope it's a rewarding one.

Paul.

 

[peedee]

Here's the Peninsular war memorial at Boavista in Porto Portugal.
The finial on the column is a lion sat on the chest of a dead eagle who's wings droop down either side.

Paul.

 

[IronMike]

Excellent!

 

[IronMike]

I plan to get a boatload of pictures. We are also visiting Washingtons Crossing and Trenton.

Thanks for your interest. The memorials have been an interest of mine since childhood. I feel it's important to honor theses men and women.

 

[peedee]

That is the thing Mike.....Honour to them all.

Wherever a conflict arose the world over it was the ordinary common man who went out and did his duty.

The professionals have been at the forefront at the outset of every armed conflict trained, ready and committed to action. More often than not however, the conscript, or short service volunteers were the men that saw the sruggle to the end.
not always on the side of the victory.

But....they served their country when asked, some not to return to a heroes parade but left in an unmarked grave, without medals and thanks through sickness or pain.

For me the unknown soldier's grave is the one where I always want to lay my poppy, where I have to stand and give some form of thanks in their honour.

and they must never be forgotten.

Paul.