K.U.K. Bust in progress

[pokrad]

Thx, I'll try to fix it...

 

[pokrad]

I am not 100% sure if those two belts are correct, but could not see from images...
Is the upper part folded ?
That small button might be used to pin the folded belt, so it can change the overall length ?
If that is the case, the buckle is probably wrong...

 

[JackG]

Where the pin is located, there is another separate belt that passes under the arm, and appears to attach to the equipment in the rear. For the buckle area, it is looped around a metal piece, which in turn attaches to the waist belt. Hopefully, Nap will come along with more concise information from his book.

 

[pokrad]

All is clear now I suppose if there is no backpack, then belt that goes back is missing too...
As the backpack and the gun are not planned for this bust I just leave it out.
But from this is clear that my buckle is wrong and there is no lower leather part of the belt, but metal hook...as You pointed out.
I'm so glad that few specialists are following this thread, and are willing to share their knowledge Thanks !!!

 

[JackG]

Happy to help out, but I wasn't completely sure of the harness setup until looking for some better photos. For the the separate belt that swings to the rear, I've no idea if it is detachable when not in use, it might just hang lose?
Are you including the belts just to have added detail to the bust? Something to consider, if your bust is portraying a more relaxed image, such as off duty, you can still have plenty detail on his chest without the leather gear, as there is still the pompoms to add, as well as a few chest medals?
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I found this just now, a bit more detail for the front badge on his cap. It looks to be designed like button with a loop that is sewn on:

http://www.heeresgeschichten.at/adjustierung/infanterie/kopfbedeckungen/feldkappe/feldkappe_1.htm
http://www.heeresgeschichten.at/adjustierung/infanterie/kopfbedeckungen/feldkappe/feldkappe_1.htm

 

[pokrad]

Pompons will be added, also the twisted rope - and guess what - I changed my mind - back belts are already sculpted on
Belts will be probably on the bust - not separate - I am trying to compromise here - they should be close enough to the bust so casting is possible, but far enough to look real enough.

 

[pokrad]

Back harness added, buckle fixed, pompons added... now only ropes left...

 

[JackG]

Looks to be on the home stretch now.

Just two things I notice about the leather equipment:
1.) - where it changes from narrow to wide, in actual photographs this area looks to be more gradual and not as abrupt as you have it
2.) - again, relying on photos, the metal hook part at the very bottom of the front straps, they appear tapered and somewhat round, not rectangular

 

[JackG]

I should have included this photo a few postings ago, sorry-

 

[pokrad]

As usual, I'll fix it
For the back, as the bust is cut off diagonal, this part will not be visible, but thanks for the photos, maybe I'll do a full figure someday...

Now a good news, guys from "Black Army models" will be releasing this bust, but it's mine and theirs first digital bust, so bear with us, we do not know how long it will take.
They found a good printer, that was a first step

 

[pokrad]

Quite a bit o work but really no such big difference - I redid some shapes and completely replaced the belts - old ones were not sharp enough and missed consistent thickness, also did a bit of leather texturing - it is a big question if it will be visible at the print at all.
Also put some rope with the pompons just for test:

 

[JackG]

I like the texture on the pompons, looks very good. I think you have this reference already, but just to make sure, it provides measurements on the cords and different ball sizes:
http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/badges/lanyard1.htm

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Definitely see you have reworked the belt and hook details pointed out earlier. Almost there, so hope you don't mind, but I've taken your working image and outlined in red as to what I observe in comparison to the museum photos. To me, the button on the straps does not dictate where the width of the belt changes, and is already getting narrower at the button position. The metal hooks could also be narrow, both the front and rear portions.

 

[mandreas]

the collar is done very well ! Im like it

 

[pokrad]

so hope you don't mind, but I've taken your working image and outlined in red as to what I observe in comparison to the museum photos.

No at all

 

[pokrad]

the collar is done very well ! Im like it

I think it's even more interesting without upper collar:

but I'm trying to do it according to picture...
Even thought about making upper collar a separate part so it could be leaved out, but in resin that would be so thin and very hard to cast.

 

[mandreas]

Even thought about making upper collar a separate part so it could be leaved out, but in resin that would be so thin and very hard to cast.

might be an idea to do a part it in photoengraving....

 

[pokrad]

Not sure if Lanyard is OK...

 

[JackG]

Pokrad, lanyard looks great! Now you have to decide where other end is attached, either into the jacket (third button), or running across chest and clipped on to a qualification badge. Well, one small detail I see, where the double braid inserts into ball, it looks flat there (perhaps is just the angle presented here?) Maybe somehow bunch the cord slightly at the end so it's more circular when it goes into the pompon?

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I know what you mean about the collar patches being covered up, it's nice to see the whole edelweiss. Compared to the b/w photo you posted on page 2, it looks you doubled the amount that is covered up. In fact, it seems to have increased since the first attempt.

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I'm not sure, the sling that runs diagonally across his chest might be made of cloth, attached to bag of same material. Maybe early war was issued in leather?

 

[pokrad]

You are again right - it is not visible from my ref pic if it is leather as the pic is B&W, but zooming into pic shows that the diagonal belt is missing thickness and I think I see a stitching on few places - so probably it's not leather.
It is a bad thing because I still fighting with thin flat objects, but a good thing as stitching and few folds will make it more interesting.
As for the edelweis , I'll try to make it visible as much as possible.

 

[pokrad]

Reduced the upper collar, thinned the bag belt, added some soft folds and added stitching...