Maim - New Bust

[Gellso]

Roger the Problem is, he looks like Tom Berenger in the movie, face, scars, everything.

So it's made ​​for an exact template!
Hendryk

Well sorry mate it's not made for an exact template is it?
Because if it was, it would have the gun he used in the movie. You didn't sculpt it so leave the decision to the guy who knows best i.e. the sculptor..

 

[JasonB]

Maybe he would suit a bow and arrow...as long as it wasn't too big for his hands...right
I apologise if I didn't make it clear, maybe you have trouble in the translation. If you look again at my first post I stated they do not claim for it to be 100 percent accurate Sgt. Barnes. Also bear in mind this is a film.......fictional! one and a half hours of "acting". I think the Vietnam guys done a years tour...and I think there maybe a big chance that these guys handled an m16 at some point during that year if you let your mind wander for a wee bit, loosen them shoulders, deep breaths and relax. And why does it have to be commando version of the m16 he's holding...no-one is going to die because of this...maybe some guys would lose sleep worrying about it at most.

Well sorry mate it's not made for an exact template is it?
Because if it was, it would have the gun he used in the movie. You didn't sculpt it so leave the decision to the guy who knows best i.e. the sculptor..

No, sorry, these are invalid arguments, IMHO. If you reproduce a character as iconic as Sgt. Barnes, right down to the scars on his face, bandanna, etc... its Sgt. Barnes. And its Sgt. Barnes from the movie Platoon, and he never used, carried or handled an M16A1 in that movie. We all know why they called it US Sgt. Vietnam and it has nothing to do with it NOT being Barnes, or being just any other Sgt. in Vietnam, but copyright issues. It is made from an exact template, they just got it wrong. And not only did they get it wrong because of the incorrect weapon, but after seeing Martins post with the primed figure, its not a good representation of the M16 anyhow. If they had just wanted it to be ANY US Sgt. in Vietnam, then they shouldn't have used Sgt. Barnes from Platoon as their template. Sort of like using Adolf Hitler as your template for " German Socialist Leader 1936", getting it wrong, then saying its not modeled on Adolf and could be ANY German leader 1936.

 

[Martin Antonenko]

No, sorry, these are invalid arguments, IMHO. If you reproduce a character as iconic as Sgt. Barnes, right down to the scars on his face, bandanna, etc... its Sgt. Barnes. And its Sgt. Barnes from the movie Platoon, and he never used, carried or handled an M16A1 in that movie. We all know why they called it US Sgt. Vietnam and it has nothing to do with it NOT being Barnes, or being just any other Sgt. in Vietnam, but copyright issues. It is made from an exact template, they just got it wrong. And not only did they get it wrong because of the incorrect weapon, but after seeing Martins post with the primed figure, its not a good representation of the M16 anyhow. If they had just wanted it to be ANY US Sgt. in Vietnam, then they shouldn't have used Sgt. Barnes from Platoon as their template. Sort of like using Adolf Hitler as your template for " German Socialist Leader 1936", getting it wrong, then saying its not modeled on Adolf and could be ANY German leader 1936.

** completely signed! **

Cheers

 

[housecarl]

It's a great sculpt, wrong weapon.
I think I'll be able to sleep.
Carl.

 

[Helm]

* shakes head laughs and ambles off*

Steve

 

[Gellso]

Nope I've had another good look at the original post and I still can't see where it guarantees it to be a faithful 100 percent geniune template from the film.... I can't even see his name or in fact the film name!!! Where the hell is it?

How did this get passed the censor? Please someone take this offending article off the website because of the sacrilege of artistic merit and because it's a film it has to be totally accurate.
I bet Tom Berringer ate and slept with that weapon, I'm sure he named it Suzy and then adopted it because it was just so right. I can't believe they would even think about not naming him as Sgt. Barnes and give a 100 percent signed declaration or at least a certificate on authenticity of the aforementioned actor stating that if anyone ever dared to sculpt him then they should include the weapon he used in the film because it's set in stone.
Can you show me your own sculpt of Sgt. Barnes so I can compare the two?

 

[Figurenfreund66]

As I wrote above the thread already, beautiful sculpt.

It should represent the Sgt Barnes is undisputed, even if it is not called that.
What bothers me is the lack of research.
Even if it's only a movie character! You ask but is also no Jedi with samurai sword and shield.
There has to be a lightsaber, right?

Hendryk

 

[billyturnip]

Even if it's only a movie character! You ask but is also no Jedi with samurai sword and shield.
There has to be a lightsaber, right?

Hendryk

No but I've seen a Stormtrooper with a 9mm Sterling SMG!

 

[Gellso]

As I wrote above the thread already, beautiful sculpt.

It should represent the Sgt Barnes is undisputed, even if it is not called that.
What bothers me is the lack of research.
Even if it's only a movie character! You ask but is also no Jedi with samurai sword and shield.
There has to be a lightsaber, right?

Hendryk

Research? It' a fictional film!

I'm no historian but there never was a samurai sword or shield in Star Wars........forgive me if I'm wrong but wasn't Vietnam riddled with M16's in the 60's?

Gells.

 

[Blue Thunder]

What a great novelty for me! For decades I was wishing for scale miniature busts of both Barnes and Elias!


I agree with shared options: the M-16 is a bit on the big size in this kit - The real one is surprisingly light and small. Apart from this matter, this is, at least for me a great novelty. Maybe Elias will follow.

 

[Figurenfreund66]

Really there is no samurai swords and shields in Star Wars.
Is also just a movie!


Hendryk

 

[Gellso]

Really there is no samurai swords and shields in Star Wars.
Is also just a movie!


Hendryk

Really? Tha's strange you made a comparison but I can't find any Jedi busts weilding a Samurai sword....can you?

Hope this helps,
Gells

 

[Babelfish]

What bothers me is the lack of research.

Someone pointing an M16 at your head and forcing you to buy this particular piece are they Hendryk?

If not then no harm, no foul. Just pass this one by, and spend your wedge on something else that you feel has been "properly researched" instead and that meets your own personal expectations/standards/likes. It's what I do.

There's plenty out there to choose from after all. Personally I don't let these things "bother" me too much - I find it's much less stressful in the long run.

- Steve

 

[Figurenfreund66]

Let it go Gellso!

Steve - I have written somewhere that this bust will not buy?
I can not remember!
I have my opinion as expressed, that I find it a shame that one has made ​​the effort to present the similarity of Sgt Barnes as accurate and then the weapon failed to do so!
No more and no less!
If someone feels it stepped on the toes - I'm sorry that, but nothing more.
I'll not let my mind forbid!

Cheers

Hendryk

 

[JasonB]

Really? Tha's strange you made a comparison but I can't find any Jedi busts weilding a Samurai sword....can you?

Hope this helps,
Gells

But apparently, if someone WERE to do a bust of a Jedi Knight, sculpt it to look identical to Luke, Obi Wan or Qui-gon (but call it "Force Master" or some such), giving him a Samurai Sword and have him wearing a pink leotard would be A-Ok. After all, no one is calling it "Jedi Master" or anything, and Jedi's are just make believe characters from a fictional movie.
I guess my expectations are too high...

 

[Babelfish]

As with any model Jason, it's down to the choice of the individual whether to buy it or not and what's "A-ok" to scratch their own particular modelling/painting itch.

Presumably (and I'm just taking a wild guess here ), those who'd prefer to paint one exactly as seen in the Star Wars movies would (I expect) give it a miss. Whereas those not fazed too much by "accuracy" issues and wanting to paint a pink leotard-wearing, samurai-wielding Jedi (perhaps for a laugh, or as 'novelty' piece) might fork out for one.

Bottom line: buy the pieces you like. Don't like one? Don't buy it and just move on. It ain't rocket science. Horses for courses and all that.

- Steve

 

[Gellso]

Well Jason it takes real guts to be brave enough to admit thinking about a Jedi Knight wearing a pink leotard! And I commend you for that.

The point would me more valid in comparison if he was holding something like a modern Scar-L assualt rifle which was not used in Vietnam. The M16 was a weapon used in Vietnam...a Samurai sword (or a pink leotard) was not used in Star Wars.....You see it now?

 

[pmfs]

Wonderful bust, very realistic, looks like Tom Berenger. Congratulations.
The M16 must be re sculpted for a CAR15 IMHO.

Pedro.

 

[StefanBerlin]

I think it´s a nice "looking" bust and only on copyright issures they named it US Sergeant - Vietnam 1968.
There are too many identications for the Figure Barnes from Platoon than to use it as standard US Sergeant in Vietnam.
The headsculpt, bandana, special knife and also use of false marine style first aid kit at web belt like they use in the film are all identications for Barnes.
From manufacture site it´s logical to use this famous film character because they want reach high sell rates with it. I say if they have not the copyright than please don´t doo such busts and when than do it right with weapon from the movie or do a complete neutral one.
The M-16 is also wrong for this character and the M-16 is not right done. So why so much work for this bust and blame it with this weapon. Also the use of the 30rnd magazine for 1968 is not false but it was not so widley in use at this date. I had prefer a standard 20rnd magazine. With an XM-177 E2 it would be much better looking for me but for the film character they must use the Colt Model 653P. I love the movie and this character at all and so 50€ are to much for that kind of bust.

Stefan