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In my never ending quest for a way to represent gold, can anyone advise if this product is any good?

Historex have it with a Z code which I believe means discontinued so I suspect it is not a great seller.
That said, if it is a good product I want to get some while available.

Thanks
Bill
 
Although not very experienced, I still think printers ink is a good basis and can be tinted/dulled with enamel varnishes and oil paint.

Hi Graham,
I have printers ink and have to say I am very disappointed with it. It is a pig to mix properly even using a dremel with a rod stirrer. The wastage due to it drying out is unbelievable despite keeping it topped up with white spirit.

It has to be pretty high on my things I regret buying list.
Perhaps I am not using it correctly.

Bill
 
You need proper printers ink not the stuff sold representing it. True printers ink is very thick. Sometimes dealers dilute it and put it in small jars with white spirit or something similar. As you have experienced it dries out or separates, sinks to the bottom of the jar and solidifies. I have a small jar each of silver and gold which l bought about 10 years ago. The ink forms a crust which when moved or penetrated reveals the ink underneath. It lasts years as only tiny amounts are needed and it mixes well with oil paint

Mine came from someone working in a design studio.

Keith
 
You need proper printers ink not the stuff sold representing it. True printers ink is very thick. Sometimes dealers dilute it and put it in small jars with white spirit or something similar. As you have experienced it dries out or separates, sinks to the bottom of the jar and solidifies. I have a small jar each of silver and gold which l bought about 10 years ago. The ink forms a crust which when moved or penetrated reveals the ink underneath. It lasts years as only tiny amounts are needed and it mixes well with oil paint

Mine came from someone working in a design studio.

Keith

Got mine from El Greco and it is very thick. Had it about two years and it hasn’t changed. I just get a bit out with a toothpick and mix it with odourless oil paint thinner.

https://www.elgrecominiatures.co.uk/collections/printers-inks
 
I echo Graham above.
Many years ago our model club managed to acquire some real printers (gold and silver) which were superb, until they ran out.
Since then I've tried various concoctions from a number of suppliers, and all have generally proved to be very variable, and generally useless (i.e. not real printers inks).
I have now found the perfect replacement, which is exactly as I remember those original printers inks.
You can find them at El Greco:-
https://www.elgrecominiatures.co.uk/collections/printers-inks
There are only three (gold, silver and bronze/copper).
All mix perfectly with oil paints to give various metallic colours (e.g. for steel I mix the silver with some blue and black).
I also mix the gold or silver with Humbrol matt varnish for embroidery.
They're not cheap, but are well worth the expense IMHO, and they last a long time.

Cheers,
Andrew
 
Looks like you have the right stuff graham. Well worth bill investing in some. Seems he might have bought the pre diluted stuff which is rubbish.

Keith

I didn't want to name them as they are an excellent company but I have the El Greco product. I will try Grahams method instead of trying to mix the whole jar. Perhaps this is where I have been going wrong.

Bill
 
I didn't want to name them as they are an excellent company but I have the El Greco product. I will try Grahams method instead of trying to mix the whole jar. Perhaps this is where I have been going wrong.

Bill

The instructions do say to put thinners in as soon as the level drops but, to be honest, it could be years before I take enough out to add thinners. I prefer to leave it as it is and just pick a bit out and just mix what I need.
 
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