Moderating

[Colin_Fraser]

It's not a bad idea at all....it just won't solve all the issues, every time. Including the current one. I for one would be quite happy with it but we all need to be singing the same song. Thanks for the input Mark.

Colin

 

[Nap]

Hi Guys ,

This is an interesting thread , everyone raises good points I think , I am not a Mod (apart from in my younger years!!!) , sometimes the threads do go off tangent (I am probably one of the culprits!!!) , for me I also enjoy the banter we all have ...some of which might be taken wrong by others reading .....perhaps if its too much in the Mods opinion a quick post to remind to keep on thread.

It is I am sure often a thankless position to be in at times and I am grateful of their input .

Lets all be adult about this and be sensible

Nap

 

[Tubby-Nuts2]

... I can do that ! ......... Possibly ?

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Not trying to stir up things but I am a bit curious. Is there a real event that initiated this topic?

Cheers
Janne Nilsson

 

[swralph]

Quite cheeky this but as Pink Floyd sang "We don't need no educashun we don't need no fought control"

 

[pwadm]

As Colin pointed out, we need a written set of forum rules and guidelines. Members should know what specifically is not allowed, and what will not be tolerated. Harassment, trolling, derogatory comments, profanity to name a few. I will work on this and present to the board when ready.

 

[Helm]

 

[DEL]

I'm getting a wee bit concerned now. In the 10 years that I've been a member you could count on one hand where threads have gone beyond the pale.
The danger of regulation is that where a term like "....will not be tolerated" is used it follows that there has to be some form of sanction beyond the perfectly effective moderation we currently have.
Could this then become directed at individuals whose comments wont be tolerated? Who then would decide ....the Board? I didn't even know we had one.

Surely a simpler way is to require each member to provide actual name and location on their profile and privately providing admin with an email address rather than hiding behind the anonimity of a member name.
That way comments and opinions would be self regulated, after all we all like support and approval from our peers, similarly I'm sure the opposite is equally true and nobody wants to be vilified by other modellers.

I suspect where unnecessary rules are established a decade into the life of a successful forum then that can only diminish the richness and verve of discussion and opinion.
It ain't broken, don't 'fix' it.
Cheers
Derek

 

[Martin64]

Being a moderator over here means for sure a lot of "presence" while running through threads and discussions regular members might not pay attention too at all when looking for "What`s new?". I am always amazed how many new threads are waiting for me out there although I usually visit this forum on a daily basis. So from my side THANK YOU MODERATORS - AND ESPECIALLY COLIN - for being what you are - nice guys and reliable moderators.
Although I did not read through the rules the no-politics-rule is not too hard to understand and makes sense in a international forum dealing with hobby-activities. There are many other forums focussed on political discussions. So if you feel the need to go for politics - there are other and maybe better places to do that.
If a political thread is opened and closed over here - no need for a change. My two cents! (And nothing personal to nobody of course!)
Cheers, Martin

 

[Gra30]

As I started this thread I should really explain why. It was in response to my recent post on British Red Coats fighting under 1 colour of which I am proud. It was never intended to be overly political but more a tribute and hopefully to keep what we have. The thread was closed, early to me as it wasn't a bun fight, far from it. That said Colin explained and I respect him as a mod and accepted his answer as posted. Other threads along the same lines and with far greater opinions remain open and my concern was consistency and when is it deemed ok to close. There are many figures that could be deemed political and offensive, it is the nature of the hobby. To encompass everything under ' political' is very broad to me. Warfare is after all political and figures replicate this depending on where you stand.
As said, I accepted Colin's answer.
Best wishes
Graham

 

[Martin64]

There are many figures that could be deemed political and offensive, it is the nature of the hobby. To encompass everything under ' political' is very broad to me. Warfare is after all political and figures replicate this depending on where you stand.
As said, I accepted Colin's answer.
Best wishes
Graham

True - but because of that discussions always start to go out of hand if the comments are not about the merits and flaws of the sculpt or the paintjob but focus on the "cause" the soldier depicted fought for, warcrimes committed etc. At that point usually the line towards politics is crossed or comments are at the edge. So no easy job for a moderator if we don`t pay attention to our posts.
I was not offened about your "under-one-flag"-thread but I remember the headline different as a political statement. I think if you release a figure (or two ) celebrating the idea "together under one flag" - no need to close a thread for Colin and maybe some more happy customers!
Cheers, Martin

 

[Gra30]

Hi Martin, I agree that the headline may have opened up an opinion, my mistake, it was never meant to. The truth that the likes shown on the video may never be seen again and lost forever is a fact.
The content didn't get out of hand to me. The other thread on Scottish Independence remains open
I like your figure idea
All the best

 

[Hecky_uk]

I don't understand why you would close a thread for a single complaint. It's like going back to the dark ages and days of Mary Whitehouse , god forbid a nipple slip... Why can't people debate in an adult manner and realise that only some people are right all of the time !

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Ok, I thought it had something to do with Gibsons dog or similar.

I think Del summons it quite well. Dont try to fix anything that really isnt a problem,
But also, we all know there are topics that could get the worst of us. As this is a hobby and we are a small community I think its unnecessary for us to become enemies over for example politics, when instead we could discuss that we all like? And therefore are certain subjects best left alone. And usually there are other forums catering for those topics.

Cheers
Janne Nilsson

 

[Mark S]

Those of you here who are suggesting we don't need guidelines and "if it ain't broke so don't fix it" needs to do a stint as moderator here.
There are many many instances of moderation behind the scenes that occur here that no other members will be aware of.
There are many reported posts, and various petty issues and arguments and spam that's dealt with all the time, Colin and Carl are doing a great job and we should all try to help them wherever we can.

But if a free for all is what members want lets give that a try for a while.

 

[garyhiggins]

As a lowly active member, I have to say I agree with Del and in a spirit of openness I'll start by saying that hiding behind my domain name, my real name is Stupid Bas***d.
Seriously though, when deciding what the rules are, a good rule of thumb is that the rules are for the obediance of fools and the guidance of the wise! Hope this helps?
Gary.

 

[DEL]

Those of you here who are suggesting we don't need guidelines and "if it ain't broke so don't fix it" needs to do a stint as moderator here.
There are many many instances of moderation behind the scenes that occur here that no other members will be aware of.
There are many reported posts, and various petty issues and arguments and spam that's dealt with all the time, Colin and Carl are doing a great job and we should all try to help them wherever we can.

But if a free for all is what members want lets give that a try for a while.

I for one take exception to the tone of your post Mark, given that you have quoted my post and interpreted it as having advocated a free for all environment.
"Free for all" being your words, to quote "But if a free for all is what members want lets give that a try for a while" are you proposing that for a period of time there will/should be no moderation? If so I find that pretty insulting to members who have contributed to these posts all of whom have been consistantly complimentary to the moderators and sterling work they do.
Of course much of the work of moderation takes place behind the scenes and that is how it should be.
It was completely unnecessary to suggest that in order to understand the volume of work and the decisions made some of us need to do a "stint". The Forum is primarily an adult (all please note lower case) environment and it's insulting to read a reply from a moderator that treats some of us as errant children.
Regards
Derek

 

[Nap]

I think we all agree that we need Mods and are grateful for their much unrewarded work ...mostly as folk have said ...behind the scenes.

WELL DONE to them I say

Nap

 

[Waterman]

I agree fully with you Del, we are not children, a lot of us have more years under our belts than we would like. I object to being policed by some one who is not a moderator, and just wants to score a cheap point. Knowing how fragile and sensitive some folk on here are I was supprised that there was not a furore and bring back hanging plea, from the politically correct brigade when Guy Gibsons dog Nigger was mentioned. That was handled in a sensible grown up way,I don't agree with censorship, as one mans view takes away the rights to be informed from another. Sort the wheat from the chaff and come to your own measured conclusions is my way of looking at it.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

This is not a discussions if we should have Moderators or not. This is a discussion about what the Moderators should moderate.
All respect to thoose that makes this a great place to be.

Cheers
Janne Nilsson