New Ronin in 90 mm

[quang]

it is possible that a ronin it had those armour and weapons?

Of course, a ronin can put on a full set of armour and remain a ronin. Just as he can disguise himself as a teahouse waitress or a wandering priest like in some popular novels.

I'm NOT an expert on ronin or samurai (or anything else) but I happen to be interested in Japanese culture and history.

What I said about the ronin I learned from Japanese books and films. This is how the Japanese people represent the ronin in their culture. You can use worse reference than that.

Quang

 

[MSzwarc]

"Among the most famous ronin are Miyamoto Musashi, the famed swordsman, and the Forty-seven Ronin."

Miyamoto Musashi was not a ronin, but rather a shugyosha. A shugyosha was a wandering swordsman who was after knowledge of the way of the sword. Musashi was never a samurai without a master.

Mike

 

[Francis Gekiere]

Beautifully figure, a definite must have.

waiting to see your painting also!

francis

 

[Kevin D.]

Interesting discussion and all the more reason to come to the planet... there is much expertise to glean from here!

I have one question...

When will it be released and available for purchase? Or is it already available?

Thanks,

Kevin D.

 

[pack88]

is avaiable in kulmbach, in august,

 

[megroot]

Diego,
I would really like to see you painted him, i admire your painted figure's. Also i wonder if i can paint at your high standard, because it is extremely high.
Further i find Pegaso one of the best, maybe the best producer of miniatuur figures.
But for a good name on the box, with this armour and weapons don't call it a Ronin. Reason is fully explained by Quang and me.
Call it a Samurai, that is closer to the reality then a Ronin.
Further i really like the figure i find it awesome sculpted.

Marc

 

[Taiko]

Hi Diego, this is very good information. I´ll save some money .
I have a personal question. My friend bought some models for me from your company(Pegaso model) and said me that your company raise the price of. But when I have a look to the Pegaso model web side I recognise that the price of models pull down. Can you give me some information about it. It is possible that the price of models can by different in the shop and in the web side?
Thank you for your time.
Milan D.

 

[itifonhom]

.....just to add my humble opinion to the discussion, although a really wonderful figure indeed, I think it would be better suited if instead of a Tachi he would carry a katana. Tachis were more expensive and "luxury" weapons than katanas and more difficult to find too. A plain katana without any decorations would be better I think. The figure though is really atmospheric with a nice pose and mastefully sculpted. Well done!!

Anastasios.

 

[Franco]

Thanks for the clarification

Hi Marc & Quang,

Thanks for the clarification on the Ronin & armour and weapons. Very interesting indeed. A homeless in an Armani suit - that is exactly my point - anything is possible in history and really hard to make broad statements etc.

Thanks for the info
Franco

 

[Franco]

Japanese culture

"I'm NOT an expert on ronin or samurai (or anything else) but I happen to be interested in Japanese culture and history." Quang's comment

Hi Quang,

Apology this message was meant to be attached to the one I previously posted. I am not a computer minded person by any stretch of the imagination and the above message was therefore incomplete.

Also I was unable to copy your quote or comment and attach as other members do.

To complete the above message .... I read with interest comment above which surprised me given that your two Geisha subjects the 120mm figure and bust are amongst the best avaiable (in my humble opinion). Your interest in Japanese culture clearly comes through with the way you expertly rendered those two subjects.....

Yes I am the proud owner of these two gems but am too scared to paint them - that tatoo on her back - wow that is hard to render.

Thanks once again for posting such interesting comments

Ciao
Franco

 

[pack88]

Diego,
I would really like to see you painted him, i admire your painted figure's. Also i wonder if i can paint at your high standard, because it is extremely high.
Further i find Pegaso one of the best, maybe the best producer of miniatuur figures.
But for a good name on the box, with this armour and weapons don't call it a Ronin. Reason is fully explained by Quang and me.
Call it a Samurai, that is closer to the reality then a Ronin.
Further i really like the figure i find it awesome sculpted.

Marc

the name .....is not my decision........ i agree all you have explained....

but the choice is taked by the Pegaso....

 

[chinesepegaso]

It is very wonderful work by Andrea Jula,I'm looking for it will be shown on the Chinese market.

I'm hunger to see the exellent painting by Diego, you are very famouse in China modelling, most of the Chinese Pegaso fans always discuss your painted works and, learning your painting techniques.

Whatever this figure is or not 100% base on the Japanese history, but I think it must can conquar the heart of Chinese model fans.

The best wish to you from Kelvin(China)!

 

[Francis Gekiere]

Afther som reserch over the 47 ronin.I find 2 diffrent repesentation of this ronin one in "semi armor" and the second in "ful armor" (like the pics follow)this by japan painter of the 18th century. In the ligth of this one we can call the figure "ronin".
But the name is not the problem! Only one thing: This figure is a splendid job of sculptor and a "must av'".

friendly

Francis

PS: Sorrynfor my bad english.

 

[alexander]

Ronin

Caro Diego,
questo si che è un pezzo degno della tua maestria.
Vedo che sei tornato libero perchè digiti.
Ciao
Francesco

 

[Ernest]

If he was a Samurai he could use an armour right? maybe he is a ronin renegade and keep it his armour and sword and refuse to give it to his "master".......hwo knows...
ER

 

[Theodoros]

What a masterpiece !

 

[quang]

Afther som reserch over the 47 ronin.I find 2 diffrent repesentation of this ronin one in "semi armor" and the second in "ful armor" (like the pics follow)this by japan painter of the 18th century. In the ligth of this one we can call the figure "ronin".

Hello Francis,

Your post is misleading as the pictures you show do NOT represent ronin in any case.

They are prints by Utagawa Kuniyoshi (1798-1861) and depict the SAMURAI HEROES OF THE TAIHEIKI. The "Taiheiki" (Chronicle of Great Pacification) is the name given to the 14th century civil war between the clans loyal to the Emperor Go-Daigo and the clans loyal to the Ashikaga Shoguns.

The original art was done during the peaceful Edo period (19th cent) when there was a fashionable nostalgia for glorious and heroic war deeds of the ancient times. The depiction owes more to exaggeration and fantasy than historical accuracy, not unlike the superheroes in modern comics.

If you're looking for a depiction of the 47 Ronin, here's how they are represented in popular Japanese culture.

Even so the representation is highly stylised. The black-and-white jagged pattern of the clothing is a convention to represent the 47 Ronin and has nothing to do with the reality.

HTH
Quang

 

[pack88]

Anyone is free to think of what he prefers.
I do not have a deep knowledge of the Chinese culture but I tried to get as much of it as possible in the last few days, in order to understand how complicated and multifaced the figure of Ronin was, as well as the events leading to being a Ronin.
I take as granted what I read (as I do not know anything else about this matter). As far as what I read is concerned, it is almost impossible that a Ronin finished by fighting for himself or for anyone for cash, using arms and armors, not always belonging to them.
For sure this is a different representation of Ronin, if compared to the trivial one, but anyway far away from being false.
In the last picture You can clearly golden lances worn by Ronins. You say that it is an art interpretation made by the author and so not a real-to-life one.
I think we are comparing a Samurai in his armor and without it. Actually we are always talking about a Samurai.
A little bit like the Attila figure in the trivial culture, represented as extremely cruel together with cut heads almost everywhere, the one You can read in historical biographies, where he is described as a very calm and reflexive leader.
In that case, what would the right representation be?
I do not want to create troubles for a nonsense,nor defend a product that is not mine, that I do not sell and that was not created by me.
I think that saying "this is not a Ronin, this is a Samurai" is false.
I would say it is a less usual representation of a Ronin.
I hope I have not misunderstood the other posts because of mylack of knowledge of the English language (I asked a friend to translate this one for me), this is only my opinion, expressed not in order to offend anyone, regarding some opinions that leave space to doubts, given by the interpration of events of the past and represented by painters or told by historians that could have given personal interpretations of facts and people.
I hope to see You many of You in Folkestone and talk together about our common passion and about the problems we like to create

 

[Francis Gekiere]

Quang,
I do not want to create troubles with my post i's just som information find on the web, that I wanted to share.

Diego,
I agree with your post and i wait to see painting.
I hope to see you in euro.

This figure is a chaleng for painter by his quality and it wil be a plaisure to paint for me.

Francis

 

[quang]

Francis: There's no trouble caused with your thread at all. I just wanted to point out that some 'information' found on the internet is inaccurate and/or downright misleading. You always have to back it with written or printed references.

Diego: It's your figure. You can paint it like you wish.

Once again, I'm not discussing the figure. I've done some research about the subject some years ago for one of my projects and only wish to share what I found with the Planeteers.

If some members find it interesting and useful, that's great!! If they don't, that's OK with me too.

Cheers,

Quang