New samurai (Pegaso models)
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Oda
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Just saw this yesterday.It looks great and if I'm not mistaken,the boxart that Pegaso has released states that the artist responsible is none other than Diego Ruina who seems to have been inactive for quite some time before this.
Just for the history,the armour depicted is one of several that have been known to belong to this great personality and it is preserved to where he is enshrined.According to most researchers it is the actual armour Ieyasou donned before the battle of Sekigahara and legends has it that its exact measurements and design were given to Tokugawa dono in a dream and he himself described it to his armourer.Well done Pegaso.
Oda.
Just for the history,the armour depicted is one of several that have been known to belong to this great personality and it is preserved to where he is enshrined.According to most researchers it is the actual armour Ieyasou donned before the battle of Sekigahara and legends has it that its exact measurements and design were given to Tokugawa dono in a dream and he himself described it to his armourer.Well done Pegaso.
Oda.
Very dramatic piece , nice to see Pegaso releasing
Painting looks great , nice to see Diego painting if it's his
Thanks for sharing
Nap
Painting looks great , nice to see Diego painting if it's his
Thanks for sharing
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Nice to see Pegaso still in the game. If previous Samurai releases are anything to go by, someone will probably be along soon to tear it to pieces in terms of "accuracy" but it looks great to my inexpert eye, and also good to see Diego Ruina back painting again. A marvellous talent.
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Edorta
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The kit provides two heads, another one without helmet.
Oda
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Tempted,tempted,oh you do not know how tempted I am mate
.But I shall be the greater person here and keep the good stuff only.It's a new samurai release and Diego's back on the game.(my therapist will be proud of me this time
)Oda.
The Riveteer
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Another "habitual moaner" signing in here - I love it!
Nice to see Pegaso going for resin and dropping the unwanted bases to address their growing price point issues.
David
Pretty strange set-up here ! Sitting on a command chair and posing with a mempo mask. Doesn't make much sense, as most of the Pegaso samurais. Remember:
it's pretty hot and humid in summer in Japan when the battles where fought and nobody in his right mind would put such a forbidding steel mask on when not in battle. And how is he supposed to give commands with that mask on ? This is another Samurai figure from Pegaso looking picturesque but not based on realities. To give myself a dose of reality, I most recently went back to my extensive picture collection of 19th century samurai. and what a wake-up call this was ! there is a gulf between how Pegaso and some of the Russians like to idolize these warriors and how they really looked in their battle armour. Go try, do a picture search at google and look at the realities.
it's pretty hot and humid in summer in Japan when the battles where fought and nobody in his right mind would put such a forbidding steel mask on when not in battle. And how is he supposed to give commands with that mask on ? This is another Samurai figure from Pegaso looking picturesque but not based on realities. To give myself a dose of reality, I most recently went back to my extensive picture collection of 19th century samurai. and what a wake-up call this was ! there is a gulf between how Pegaso and some of the Russians like to idolize these warriors and how they really looked in their battle armour. Go try, do a picture search at google and look at the realities.
sd0324
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And here we go. So humid in Japan, that cinches it. I love a good Samurai accuracy argument. To my eye, it's an absolute stunning figure.
Steve
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion ......ALL just respect that please and keep comments civil ...PM me if anybody has issues
It's good to see Pegaso releasing and it's a nice figure and a good display piece
If it's your interest , buy it, paint it, display it
Happy benchtime
Nap
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It's good to see Pegaso releasing and it's a nice figure and a good display piece
If it's your interest , buy it, paint it, display it
Happy benchtime
Nap
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Franco
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Super happy to see Pegaso releasing again in this range and in resin.
Hmmh humidity in Japan well there is a version without the mask, but does it really matter, sometimes we just need to enjoy great new releases...
Hmmh humidity in Japan well there is a version without the mask, but does it really matter, sometimes we just need to enjoy great new releases...
Ulrich
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One question: You have seen the version without Mask? And that make no sense in your opinion?
Blind Pew
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Great to have Pegaso releasing what I am positive is going to be considered a classic. The competition tables will be groaning under the weight of these - it's sure to be a popular one. Also good to see something from Diego Ruina too.
Guys just start watching Japanese samurai movies. than you get a feeling about what works and what not.I have about 500+ in my collection.I don't like the head without helmet neither. In the movies he always had a shaved head with a top knot. the facial expression doesn't exite me neither. too stilted. but what do I expect from Pegaso who rarely got a Samurai right ?
Redcap
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The overall figure looks impressive and I love the subject and pose which is very reminiscent of the old seated Poste Militaire 90mm seated samurais which still stand the test of time IMHO.
Just looking at the bare head version however and perhaps it is the camera perspective, but is the (helmetless) head a bit under scale? The one with the helmet isn't as clear in this regards (and actually looks OK) due to the dark and sombre lighting for the image but the clear ones showing the bare headed version (appears) to suggest the head is too small giving the samurai almost bodybuilder type proportions....?
I have spoken with someone who is anatomically aware and they also had the same reservations on head scale and provided the attached revised image which shows the head (on the right image) corrected (by their reckoning) into human scale head ratio to body mass (or whatever the correct term is). The one on the left is the Pegaso original image as presented here.
NOTE - I have zero anatomical or sculpting qualifications and merely mention this to invite opinions from those with a more informed awareness of human body proportions or sculpting. I may well be wrong on this and this is based solely upon what my eye sees in the images already shown. As for historical accuracy of armour and weapons etc. well , I have zero knowledge in that field and as such, this is simply a question about anatomy of the figure and not 'accuracy' of samurai dress or weapons - nothing more.
Gary
Just looking at the bare head version however and perhaps it is the camera perspective, but is the (helmetless) head a bit under scale? The one with the helmet isn't as clear in this regards (and actually looks OK) due to the dark and sombre lighting for the image but the clear ones showing the bare headed version (appears) to suggest the head is too small giving the samurai almost bodybuilder type proportions....?
I have spoken with someone who is anatomically aware and they also had the same reservations on head scale and provided the attached revised image which shows the head (on the right image) corrected (by their reckoning) into human scale head ratio to body mass (or whatever the correct term is). The one on the left is the Pegaso original image as presented here.
NOTE - I have zero anatomical or sculpting qualifications and merely mention this to invite opinions from those with a more informed awareness of human body proportions or sculpting. I may well be wrong on this and this is based solely upon what my eye sees in the images already shown. As for historical accuracy of armour and weapons etc. well , I have zero knowledge in that field and as such, this is simply a question about anatomy of the figure and not 'accuracy' of samurai dress or weapons - nothing more.
Gary
Giwe
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Beautiful figure.
I just did a picture search on google and all the historical ones show his head in the classical samurai hair style : shaved head with top knot ! Here is the relevant link for school kids, which I find appropriate for all the ignorant Pegaso fan boys here:
https://homework.study.com/explanat...urai-wear-their-hair-in-the-16th-century.html
Final verdict: the geniuses at Pegaso managed indeed to get both head versions wrong, besides the head size, adressed above !
https://homework.study.com/explanat...urai-wear-their-hair-in-the-16th-century.html
Final verdict: the geniuses at Pegaso managed indeed to get both head versions wrong, besides the head size, adressed above !
