NOOB Alert Oil Pints and Brush strokes

[Knikki]

I am sure I have seen something on here about ti but I can't find anything relevant when doing a search.

Ok so I am trying to paint a VL figure using Oil Paints, now I have used some blue for his pants and tried to paint it on thinly by wetting the brush with turps Winsor and Newton, but I seem to get 'brush stroke, marks' all over the place.

Is there a trick to doing this well and getting them?

 

[kempie]

I'm not super advanced myself but typically oils are applied over some sort of base coat. My own preference is to paint the oil on thick and then brush almost all of it off using another clean dry brush. This leaves only the thinnest hint of oil on the high points with a little heavier coat in the low points where shadows would go. Onto this you can then blend in highlights and darker shadows.

I apologise if this is stating the obvious but it took me a while to get the hang of oils too. Pretty sure if you google for mark bannerman there are a couple of online videos which will explain things more clearly.

Cheers, kempie

 

[megroot]

I think you have some tricky points of the oilpaint.
1. Blue is a very difficult color because it keeps shining. Therefore, lay some paint on a indexcard and let the oil soak out. (takes about 15 minutes). Then bring the paint to your palette.
2. Only tip the brush into whitespirit. Dap it off at a paper towel. That's enough to thin the paint. Then paint on a coated figure....i use Vallejo acrylic at a color as close as the oilpaint.
3. Paint the figure. Let it dry for a half hour and then whipe off with a dry brush and clean it after every stroke.
4. Let it dry in a drybox (wooden box 30x30x30 cm and a 60 W light bulb) for about 2 - 3 hours.
The paint is matt and has no brushmarks. I then repeat the painting step with a new thin layer untill the figure is equal painted. Into the wet paint you gonna do the first shade and highlight. (wet in wet)
After drying repeat the shading and highlighting. (wet on dry)

Marc

 

[Einion]

Ok so I am trying to paint a VL figure using Oil Paints, now I have used some blue for his pants and tried to paint it on thinly by wetting the brush with turps Winsor and Newton, but I seem to get 'brush stroke, marks' all over the place.

Which blue and which brand?

On the bare resin, over primer (which colour?) or a basecoat?

You usually wouldn't want to wet your brush with turps and then just dip it into paint and try to apply it. I would recommend you get used to mixing your paints to the desired consistency so that it is uniform, rather than starting out thin and getting progressively thicker as the turps gets used up. BTW I should mention some people don't dilute oil paints at all, always using the paint straight from the tube.

Einion

 

[Knikki]

Ok some tips picked up thank you.

Will have ago at leaving the paint on the card before using it.

As for the Blue it is Coeruleum (Hue) by Rowney Georgian and I have primed the kit using white paint.

 

[Einion]

Okay the Georgian line is a lower-cost range so the opacity isn't as high as it could be (still decent paint though, many modellers use one or two tubes from this range).

I'm not familiar with their hue of Cerulean Blue but as it's a mixture it may be a little more transparent than the real thing. Either way, it's probably best to work over a blue basecoat done in acrylic or enamels rather than directly over white.

Einion

 

[Alex]

coming from canvas painting, here is my 2 cents on the subject
i don't dilute oil paint all. straight from the tube on a cardboard then mix it and use it right away. will last couple of hours and will dry faster since oil will get absorbed by the cardboard
now what is difficult to achieve with oil is good coverage without laying too much paint
in order to reach this goal you should first underpaint in acrylic then you use oil paint. Also note that at first when you lay down the paint it s going to be difficult to drag it before the surface is dry. on canvas we oil the surface before but this it not a good thing on a miniature
so just keep laying down the paint and trying to get it as flat as possible
once you will have covered all the area you re painting, blend the middle tones, shadows etc then continue to work wet on wet adding a little bit of white there in order to lighten that specific area for example
practice that s it
alex