Painting Lessons UK

[mick3272]

Hi Neil

I don't mind helping and providing kits etc.

I have sent you a pm

Stuart

That is very kind, and helpful Stuart.

Thanks
Mick

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

This might upset some

I wonder just how much one can get out of these seminars ' sure its great to see a master at work be it painting musician ,Kendo, Aikido etc.
There is only so much you can take in at the one session ,generally 2 hours max no matter what it is .

Re the painting acrylics is more a format so you might get more out of it.
Oils are a huge learning curve and the top guys did not learn this in a weekend stint .

Another thing ! not everyone can teach no matter how good they are at there specific art , time may be better spent getting snippets of information from fellow modellers and it aint gonna cost you £700 quid upwards .

Another point is ; what you get from these paint happenings will depend on where you are at in the hobby , no point in going to a master to learn scales
I have been to many teachers for many things and it is always the same " learn a little go away and practice "

 

[mick3272]

Ron. I agree to a certain extent .
But as a punter as I would be, I would have to pick the class that I attended. In an ideal world you would have beginners, intermediate, & master class. Then you would have to look at the subject, figures, busts, horse's etc etc

By attending a class at the right level is key, One weekend class wouldn't increase my skills to Yours, Brian's or Kev's level, but I feel sure I would leave with a greater understanding and my skill level would improve no end.

I do accept that if (fingers crossed) this can get off the ground. The classes available may not suit all.

But I think its worth a go, and if its not tried we wont know.

Mick

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

Ron. I agree to a certain extent .
But as a punter as I would be, I would have to pick the class that I attended. In an ideal world you would have beginners, intermediate, & master class. Then you would have to look at the subject, figures, busts, horse's etc etc

By attending a class at the right level is key, One weekend class wouldn't increase my skills to Yours, Brian's or Kev's level, but I feel sure I would leave with a greater understanding and my skill level would improve no end.

I do accept that if (fingers crossed) this can get off the ground. The classes available may not suit all.

But I think its worth a go, and if its not tried we wont know.

Mick

No there is nothing wrong with the idea Mick , its about expectations . and faces would be a great place to start.
I have sat and watched Fernando Ruiz paint a face in 10 minutes with super results and this was at a show , I have no doubt his seminars would be great as would be Cartacci or Parsquali

 

[mick3272]

No there is nothing wrong with the idea Mick , its about expectations . and faces would be a great place to start.
I have sat and watched Fernando Ruiz paint a face in 10 minutes with super results and this was at a show , I have no doubt his seminars would be great as would be Cartacci or Parsquali

Sorry Ron I didn't mean to imply you were against it. I think we are singing the same hymn book but slightly different versions.
Speaking for myself my faces were pink, darker pink for lips, and two black spots for eyes. Having looked at video's, read articles etc with no or very little improvement I sought some advice/help from Gra (CGS) I can now paint a face that looks like a face . Still a lot of room for improvement but getting there.

I would willingly pay hard cash to sit with a tutor NOT to watch him/her but to paint under his/her direction.
My wish list would be for Faces.and Shadows, highlights, and shading. As both subjects are an art form in there own right

Mick

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

Sorry Ron I didn't mean to imply you were against it. I think we are singing the same hymn book but slightly different versions.
Speaking for myself my faces were pink, darker pink for lips, and two black spots for eyes. Having looked at video's, read articles etc with no or very little improvement I sought some advice/help from Gra (CGS) I can now paint a face that looks like a face . Still a lot of room for improvement but getting there.

I would willingly pay hard cash to sit with a tutor NOT to watch him/her but to paint under his/her direction.
My wish list would be for Faces.and Shadows, highlights, and shading. As both subjects are an art form in there own right

Mick

There is no doubt that Fer has a great outlook to teaching albeit acrylics , but he has a system for adaptation for the oil guys if they want to try Acrylics , if you get a chance to watch him paint : grab it

 

[Nap]

I agree with Mick ...faces are a good subject ..we all have various methods talking with and sitting with a "tutor" helps ...not so much that you will instantly get it!...I always take something away after talking to others ....to put more into practice at a later date on the bench.

When I demo I have handouts but with those watching I find they often don't want to interrupt as they see you painting ..head down!

Another idea might be to work with a club ...perhaps IPMS .....they need figures for their tanky and other subjects!

Nap

 

[kagemusha]

As already mentioned....the receptiveness of the onlooker....combined with the teachers ability to communicate...is the key to any class/seminar.....
Unless you are fortunate enough to be able to afford a 'one to one' class....there is far more information 'freely' available on Youtube....a major advantage is you can pause and rewind/play as many times as you need to be able to digest it....
It always seems a waste of money when....having attended a 'masterclass'...watched intently...asked so many questions....and made copious notes...you get home...get everything ready....only to find...it doesn't work....
With such a deep well of information/help available right here on PF....all that money could be better spent on practice pieces...which...in the end....is the only real way to learn....
That said...it's what works for you that is important....be it a class/seminar....videos or demonstrations....certainly....with such a generous offer from Stu...the idea has merit...for some

 

[peedee]

When I do painting demos I always ask the modellers email adress and send them an sbs on the spot of my method of face painting in a pdf file, along with some other tips and hints.

I usually get a great response after the show from the individual.

You are correct Kev. At IPMS shows, I always try to make the point that a tank, car, boat or plane without a figure is just a machine.
A figure or crewman gives the model scale and purpose.
If any modeller will go to the end of the world to master weathering and rusting battle damage and mud, masking pre shading and colour modulated airbrushing, why not add painting the figure to the armoury of skills.

 

[Forté]

Meg Maples is coming over this year I believe and I often hint every time I see a post of Facebook by FeR, Roman/Massive Voodoo, Banshee, Kirill, and others. For most of them it's easier to just travel within Europe though as their shops seem to cater more for these sort of things (Battlefield Berlin for example).

Look up The Weekend Workshop in the UK as John Harrison looks at getting people over.

 

[tomifune]

Having been involved on both ends of these, both as a student and helping arrange them at Shows, there is a huge difference between a seminar and workshop. Seminars are usually free and give you highlights to take home and practice. Workshops have a charge and are always hands on. Materials are usually provided (and stated ahead of time) along with the object being painted the same for everyone. The key is to have only the amount of students that the instructor can handle. I have to say that I have never heard anyone who attended a workshop be unhappy with the results. Knowing some of the artists work beforehand, you could see a noticable difference afterwards.
In my opinion a person should not enter a workshop strictly for painting skills when the object doesn't match their interest; bust, figure, etc. At the MFCA/APG Show this year, Penny Meyer is conducting a workshop on flats. She is an excellent instructor, but flats might not interest every figure painter.

This might upset some

I wonder just how much one can get out of these seminars ' sure its great to see a master at work be it painting musician ,Kendo, Aikido etc.
There is only so much you can take in at the one session ,generally 2 hours max no matter what it is .

I took a seminar once on Aikido/ Acyrlics where at the end we were taught how to throw around oil painters

Bob

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

Having been involved on both ends of these, both as a student and helping arrange them at Shows, there is a huge difference between a seminar and workshop. Seminars are usually free and give you highlights to take home and practice. Workshops have a charge and are always hands on. Materials are usually provided (and stated ahead of time) along with the object being painted the same for everyone. The key is to have only the amount of students that the instructor can handle. I have to say that I have never heard anyone who attended a workshop be unhappy with the results. Knowing some of the artists work beforehand, you could see a noticable difference afterwards.
In my opinion a person should not enter a workshop strictly for painting skills when the object doesn't match their interest; bust, figure, etc. At the MFCA/APG Show this year, Penny Meyer is conducting a workshop on flats. She is an excellent instructor, but flats might not interest every figure painter.




I took a seminar once on Aikido/ Acyrlics where at the end we were taught how to throw around oil painters

Bob

You wanna try throw this one about

 

[stormtrooper miniatures]

Just to let you all know that this is starting to come together.

So if you are really interested in a painting seminar to learn more about painting your figurines with acrylics then just mail me your intentions to [email protected] I wont respond but will add you to a folder in my Hotmail account. As more becomes known we will mail you first and hence you get first refusal.

All I can say at present is at least 1 top painter has agreed to help in principle and the possibility of expanding this with others is promising. Darren from Tommys War is on board also and I will be contacting others to make this even more promising. The desire to make this happen is very strong.

Personally I think it could be very good....you cannot beat being taught in a small group by somebody who just oozes this much skill and artistry,,,,,obviously practice is needed but somethings you just cant teach yourself.

Its not just open to UK modellers either,,,if your in the northern part of the northern hemisphere and want to come please mail me also


Stuart

 

[mick3272]

Hi Stuart.

email sent.
Thanks Mick

 

[Tecumsea]

Email sent...........thanks for picking up the ball on this one.

Keith

 

[taff edwards]

I am in I agree with Niel demos end up being a zoo but actual specific tuition I use acrylics but oil would be of interest

 

[sippog]

I have always hoped to find a figure painting workshop lead by somebody talented that is reasonably accessible. No luck so far.
There was one that was scheduled to happen in London in August 2013 but it was cancelled.
I cant even find a group of like-minded individuals - which would be a start and maybe even better than a maestro