WIP Critique Pushing myself

[DEL]

Del, always one lol. Glad you like it so far. Hope to get at least the bottom half done before Perth. Are you and the gang going?

Barrie.

Probably pop up for Sunday. Kinda depends on plans for my Daughters 21st on the Saturday and whether I keep to type and make an a***e of myself.
Going to S&L on the 11th April (me davie ron & brian) and Herzog von Bayern 15 - 16 May (me davie ron)..... if you fancy coming along

 

[BarrieHynd]

I was never very good at pottery at school, never any good at sculpting either, although I could draw. I could copy pictures but thats as far as it went. The dark arts are a mystery to me.
Will follow this one Barrie.

Cheers
Bob

Good to have you watching Bob.

Cheers
Barrie

 

[BarrieHynd]

Barrie, when you're working out a pose, try and put yourself in that pose and see how it feels.
Best wishes, Gary.

Done that Gary, but oh my old bones don't half hurt. Or I was in all the wrong positions lol

Cheers
Barrie

 

[BarrieHynd]

Probably pop up for Sunday. Kinda depends on plans for my Daughters 21st on the Saturday and whether I keep to type and make an a***e of myself.
Going to S&L on the 11th April (me davie ron & brian) and Herzog von Bayern 15 - 16 May (me davie ron)..... if you fancy coming along

That's a no for Perth then. Can't make S&L myself, would love to get back to that show, used to go every year when I stayed in the borders.
Cheers
Barrie

 

[elanlane13]

Barrie,
It's good to see you are enjoying sculpting, I've always found it the most satisfying part of the process.
Gary is spot on with putting yourself into the position you want to sculpt. Also take 360 degree photos, it's a great help. If you can try and wear clothing of a similar weight to those of the figure being sculpted that helps to get the folds right too.
In the stance you are sculpting there is some hip movement needed. The torso you are using won't allow this. If you separate the hip area from the rib/trunk area this will help to make the stance more natural. Moz is a genius at this.
I hope this helps.

 

[david pickford]

Looks promising- if you can draw, you can sculpt I reckon!

 

[BarrieHynd]

Looks promising- if you can draw, you can sculpt I reckon!

Cheers David for your comments, always wanted to try this but it won't be as quick as your sculpting.

Barrie.

 

[BarrieHynd]

Barrie,
It's good to see you are enjoying sculpting, I've always found it the most satisfying part of the process.
Gary is spot on with putting yourself into the position you want to sculpt. Also take 360 degree photos, it's a great help. If you can try and wear clothing of a similar weight to those of the figure being sculpted that helps to get the folds right too.
In the stance you are sculpting there is some hip movement needed. The torso you are using won't allow this. If you separate the hip area from the rib/trunk area this will help to make the stance more natural. Moz is a genius at this.
I hope this helps.

Cheers for taking the time to comment Rob.
Have done a bit of cutting and can see a difference in the pose already. Feeling better about it myself as it doesn't look so stiff now.
Having problems transferring the pics, will be back shortly.
Barrie

 

[BarrieHynd]

Got no idea as to why the pics are sideways Hopefully you can see the difference. If there is something else you can see to improve don't be shy, shout it out.

Cheers,
Barrie.

 

[garyhiggins]

Done that Gary, but oh my old bones don't half hurt. Or I was in all the wrong positions lol

Cheers
Barrie

I've got no sympathy, hurting bones is how you know whether a pose works or not .

 

[elanlane13]

Barrie,
That's looking more natural now. The positioning of the head is key for a realistic pose. Now is the time to experiment with that before it's too late.

 

[Dan Morton]

The leg you finished looks fine and anatomically on the slender side. To my eyes, the torso and hips of your mannikin are (no offense intended) looking chunky [a lot like me!!!]. As you add clothing to the figure, this aspect will become more pronounced. Maybe you are going for that thicker torso and hips look on purpose. If you are then, you're on the beam. If not, now is the time to substantially cut and sand back. Feel free to disagree and ignore my comment.

All the best,
Dan

 

[BarrieHynd]

Sorry for the lack of updates on this but things have been a bit slow at the table recently. After taking in all the comments and suggestions I decided to start afresh. Still going for the same scale, 120mm and still going for the same sort of pose for the figure. Still a long way off, but thought I would show you all what stage its at.

All comments welcome so fire away.
Cheers,
Barrie.

 

[Eludia]

Looking good Barrie

I'm also trying to teach myself to sculpt and found this book to be really helpful:

https://www.anatomy4sculptors.com/store.php

It's a bit pricey but you can buy it in 4 segments for Kindle and it works out a lot cheaper (Head & Neck, Torso, Upper Limb and Lower Limb). I converted the kindle books to pdf so that I can print out individual pages as I need them for bench reference. It's so good that I'm actually thinking of stumping up the $100 or so for a hard copy (it's only the price of a couple of busts after all )

 

[Eludia]

Here's a review of the book with some pics to give you an idea of what to expect :

http://www.parkablogs.com/content/book-review-anatomy-sculptors-understanding-human-figure

 

[garyhiggins]

That looks to be a very useful book Billy, thanks for the info.

 

[Scotty]

This looks good Barry, is the kilt hollow or a block of putty? I'm itching to try this myself so I'll be following your progress closely. All the best,
Scotty.

 

[arj]

Missed this one yesterday Barrie.
Looking good so far.

Cheers,
Andrew

 

[Gaudin]

I dont know if kilt is finished, but back of the kilt should be pleats, not lines. The fabric is gathered and sawn, looking something like this (note how tight pleats are at the top and how they widen in the lower " free" part) :

It wouldnt matter in small scales, but in 120 mm there is good opportunity to show this.

It makes sense to make kilt a solid chunk of clay and you could literally carve great pleats with a scalpel

 

[Scotty]

It depends whether you are depicting box pleats or knife pleats, your diagram shows knife pleats. Even at full size it is difficult to differentiate between them. When marching the pleats will open but standing still like this figure they hang quite tightly together.