Question on Crusader Clothing Colour?

[Jeff T]

Hi all,

I would like to do these two Crusader figures, and was wondering if their clothing can be done in black or red, not just white?

Any advice will be much appreciated.

Cheer's,
Jeff.

 

[Mirofsoft]

They were in fact very colourfull, except the mercenaries of the Temple
here are some who were there
https://www.euraldic.com/lasu/tx/txt_bh1844crois_som.html
ask for any name, the heraldic ( coat of arms ) and surprise surprise no whity whity
samples
https://www.pinterest.fr/pin/692076667709668083/

 

[Jeff T]

Thank you very much Mirosoft!

Cheer's,
Jeff.

 

[Mirofsoft]

This from a book of the XI century, templars, templars and templars, only in low budget movies, a white cloth is cheap

 

[MCPWilk]

Templar Sergeants wore black surcoats with a red cross.

Mike

 

[jimz66]

They were in fact very colourfull, except the mercenaries of the Temple
here are some who were there
https://www.euraldic.com/lasu/tx/txt_bh1844crois_som.html
ask for any name, the heraldic ( coat of arms ) and surprise surprise no whity whity
samples
https://www.pinterest.fr/pin/692076667709668083/

Forgive my but I cannot read French. Is there an English equivalent of this? I have the Knight based on Sean Connery and I'd like to paint mine in a different paint scheme but I don't know what colors I want to use. Its a ways off but I'd like to be able to read that. Thanks

 

[kevininpdx]

Templar knights wore white with the sergeants wearing black. The Hospitalers wore black and eventually switched to red but those two figures would be before that switch. I believe the master wore red well before though.

 

[Mirofsoft]

Forgive my but I cannot read French. Is there an English equivalent of this? I have the Knight based on Sean Connery and I'd like to paint mine in a different paint scheme but I don't know what colors I want to use. Its a ways off but I'd like to be able to read that. Thanks

Which movie ? The one were is he King of England ? or were he is Knight Templar ?
This left you with 2 choices only Templar ( but not Simon ) White, Red Cross in center ....
King of England

same colour and lions on the clothing + eventualy a red cross sewn on the left side of the chest ( would be green for guy from Belgium, Lotharingie, white from France ... and )

AND they were no templar at all in the first crusade, they were created in 1129

 

[jimz66]

Which movie ? The one were is he King of England ? or were he is Knight Templar ?
This left you with 2 choices only Templar ( but not Simon ) White, Red Cross in center ....
King of England
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same colour and lions on the clothing + eventualy a red cross sewn on the left side of the chest ( would be green for guy from Belgium, Lotharingie, white from France ... and )

AND they were no templar at all in the first crusade, they were created in 1129

Actually I was told he wasn't in the movie but COULD have been. Robin and Marion? I haven't seen it. But I have the figure for it. Its this one here....

http://www.young-miniatures.com/products/YH1827/YH1827-1.htm

 

[kevininpdx]

Are you only interested in the monastic military orders? If not many noble knights and their retinues went on crusade and they offer lots of color options.

 

[Mirofsoft]

Actually I was told he wasn't in the movie but COULD have been. Robin and Marion? I haven't seen it. But I have the figure for it. Its this one here....

http://www.young-miniatures.com/products/YH1827/YH1827-1.htm

The facts
Robin Hood being a poacher/thief/robber, he can only be a templar mercenary, as the vast majority of templars was .
Or Robin Hood of Wakefield simple soldier, of the count of Lancaster, so plain dull coloured cloth, no sign ....


The Legend ... does not exist so no coat of arms
In this particular movie, I don't remember seing him with a templar attire
But you can make believe and use a stag in his coat of arms, like ..... see here the differents attitude existing
http://nouvelleheraldie.blogspot.com/2017/12/le-cerf-en-heraldique.html

 

[PropBlast]

In Robin Hood: Prince Of Thieves, he only appeared in the film at the end as King Richard returning from the crusades.

 

[Jeff T]

Are you only interested in the monastic military orders? If not many noble knights and their retinues went on crusade and they offer lots of color options.

Thanks a lot for the info above Kevin,..I really know nothing about the different orders etc, its way beyond my comprehension of who's who, I just like the look of the figures, but after doing a couple of others in white over the years, I really didn't feel like doing more, so was hoping I could do them in another colour.

Cheer's,
Jeff.

 

[Mirofsoft]

Enough books about this
like Osprey, even muslim were not dull white

 

[cinimod]

Not one you come across very often is the Knights Order of St Lazarus, I once did an Andrea crusader as one. They have white or black surcoats with a green cross...........dom

 

[PropBlast]

Not one you come across very often is the Knights Order of St Lazarus, I once did an Andrea crusader as one. They have white or black surcoats with a green cross...........dom

https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/knight-of-the-order-of-saint-lazarus-wounded-knight.315829/

 

[PropBlast]

Also these from Pegaso -

https://www.themodellingnews.com/2015/07/the-latest-sculpts-from-pegaso-make-for.html