Guys thank you all for your comments. Carl i think you r talking about the brown coat and i see your point. The truth is that sometimes i tend to overdo lights and shadows cause it makes the figure stand out from a longer distance than the 30cm that we usually look at it. Mike i m quite pleased with the colors. Their covering ability is excllent, layering works great too, but i excpected even the dark colorst to dry dead matt and the're not. Still they are more matt than Vallejo. I would recommend giving them a try. The nice thing about them is that there colors correspond to oils (ex. burnt umber, raw sienna etc) so transition from one medium to the other comes easier. (for me at least).