The eyes have it ...

[Ned Ricks]

Eyes are the test for my shaky hands. Very small brush and calming music in the background...

There is an acrylic glue, intended I think for fabric, called "Fusion" that makes clear eyes. This stuff is also handy for miniature figures lenses in eye glasses, telescopes, cameras.
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[Ferris]

Myouchin, you are a great modeller and indeed have the language disadvantage, but in my opinion Steve’s remark was not aimed at you in particular and I don’t think you have reason to feel insulted. Steve only made a generic comment. And if you, like me, have seen counter-examples, that basically closes the matter. Except we haven’t convinced Steve yet that iris detail at 1:35 scale IS possible.. ;-)

I once bought a 1:35 figure painted by another Japanese painter and wow...! I don’t know how it was done, but they are there, both iris and pupil!
In the nineties there also was German painter that could paint 1:35 scale eyes and swastikas on figures (Stefan Muller-Herdemertens(?)). Would love to know their technique.

Cheers
Adrian

 

[bigtodd]

Oh man I just caught up and forgot to put the kettle on to sit back and watch and wonder which time lord is fighting which?

 

[myouchin]

Myouchin, you are a great modeller and indeed have the language disadvantage, but in my opinion Steve’s remark was not aimed at you in particular and I don’t think you have reason to feel insulted. Steve only made a generic comment. And if you, like me, have seen counter-examples, that basically closes the matter. Except we haven’t convinced Steve yet that iris detail at 1:35 scale IS possible.. ;-)

I once bought a 1:35 figure painted by another Japanese painter and wow...! I don’t know how it was done, but they are there, both iris and pupil!
In the nineties there also was German painter that could paint 1:35 scale eyes and swastikas on figures (Stefan Muller-Herdemertens(?)). Would love to know their technique.

Cheers
Adrian

I wasn't going to comment on this thread anymore since Steve, my only discussion partner, got up and went somewhere else.I'm not going to wait for him to come back any longer.But I want to say something to you, so I'll comment again.

Thank you Adrian, your words are full of reason and decency.

 

[Babelfish]

I guess you have never dealt with myouchin before. It is ludicrous and silly.

And posts this ... after kicking off an argument about the content of a 6 year-old thread .....

"I'm an Asian who can't speak English. It's not easy for me to have a discussion with you in English."



- Steve

 

[Babelfish]

Myouchin, you are a great modeller

As said above, to be fair he definitely is.

but in my opinion Steve’s remark was not aimed at you in particular and I don’t think you have reason to feel insulted. Steve only made a generic comment.

Correct on all counts. But to dig up the corpse of a 6 year-old thread and start an argument about it in this thread (when he wasn't even involved in the discussion in a completely different third thread that apparently triggered him) strikes me as utterly bizarre, and suggests to me that I struck a nerve back then and he's been harbouring a grudge for all that time. Speculation on my part, but maybe it's an East Asian "face" thing? Although he did say back then that he "welcomed" my opinion and that he could "never be angry" at it - so who knows?!

And if you, like me, have seen counter-examples, that basically closes the matter ... Except we haven’t convinced Steve yet that iris detail at 1:35 scale IS possible..

I think I would have to actually sit down next to the painter and watch it being done. Otherwise I remain convinced that some sort of jiggery-pokery must be afoot. Either photoshopping, decals or some such.

Unfortunately I didn't save links, but I've seen claims by painters (not myouchiun as far as I recall) that they've painted blood vessels in 1/35 or 54mm eyes, and I simply do not see how that is possible with the human hand & eye combination. Imagine the literally microscopic amount of paint involved, and the equally microscopic surface area it would cover, and the infinitely fine hand movement that would take to achieve. I think it's a preposterous claim. Obviously the larger the scale, the greater the detail that can be achieved. But in those small scales - nah, not freehand.

- Steve

 

[Ferris]

As said above, to be fair he definitely is.

Unfortunately I didn't save links, but I've seen claims by painters (not myouchiun as far as I recall) that they've painted blood vessels in 1/35 or 54mm eyes, and I simply do not see how that is possible with the human hand & eye combination. Imagine the literally microscopic amount of paint involved, and the equally microscopic surface area it would cover, and the infinitely fine hand movement that would take to achieve. I think it's a preposterous claim. Obviously the larger the scale, the greater the detail that can be achieved. But in those small scales - nah, not freehand.

- Steve

With blood vessels in 1/35 I’d be sceptical as well Steve. Iris and pupil however are ‘just’ two tiny dots of paint, which in my opinion is achievable in principle. It will require clear vision, excellent brush, steady hand, good aim, and the right consistency of paint. And probably persistance as well, as first-time-right will not be achievable I expect.
I’ve seen examples of painters using jewelers microscopes. What I’d really like to know is how to prevent the tiny amount of paint at the tip of the brush not to evaporate or dry before placing the dot. My problem is that my eyes require some focus adjustment time, even when using magnification. The 5-10 seconds this takes is enough for the paint to dry.
Having seen examples (using optivisor, I have to say) I know it CAN be done, but I’m with you in wishing to witness the process!

Cheers