The Ronin - Ebroin fantastic 90mm novelty to be released soon by Pegaso

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Sienese artisans of Pegaso will have some glorifying hours ahead while replicating in white metal this stunning creation by Youn Song who signs his creations with the artistic pseudonym of EBROIN (in caps).


Pick a chair and stand in ovation - A stunning contender for the 90mm figure of the year award!

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An evocative piece....but....if he is Ronin....he hasn't been masterless/unemployed for long....not dressed that well!
Another reservation...some of that lacing detail is very shallow....the moulds will have to be exceptional to hold that level of detail....and reproduce it in white metal....
I for one would not buy it sight unseen.

Ron
 
WOW great sculpt will look even better with paint on. well done Pegaso another winner.

ian
 
90mm figs these days are getting a bit prohibitive, shame as this is a lovely figure.

Casting should be OK though, I've seen/handled/got a few Pegaso/Romeo samurai type figures and quality wise, they're all good.
 
It's good to see that Pegaso STILL gives credit to the classic 90mm. It's THE ONLY size that has fanatic followers out there since the great Poste Militaire and (why not) Andrea years. Congrats for this respect and bravo for another great sculpture.(y)(y)(y)
 
Not judging the quality of sculpting or casting and usually refraining from any negative comment, I can't share the general enthusiasm for this offering. Japanese armour and bushi being one of my life-long interests the following points bother me:
a. the kusazuri (skirt armour) should be of equal length on all sides, not with one flap hanging lower down his crotch
b. offered as a "ronin" the wearing of an eboshi or court cap is highly improbable, as is the hairdo.
c. a samurai or ronin leaning on his unsheated sword is also rather improbable, it is a western pose, not a Japanese one
d. a warrior in full armour is hardly a ronin

Pegaso has made some really good figures, but given the price that will be asked for this one and the amount of time that it will take to paint it, it wouldn't hurt if they did their homework a wee bit more carefully!

Fire away, I'm donning my flackjacket:whistle:
 
the pose similiar with this illustration..but this is just a drawing illustration not a real photo, so don't know about he leaning on his unsheted sword is a correct pose in that era or not

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Well said Akaryu, thanks for putting your head above the parapet first. My initial reaction to seeing this was Wow! until I looked at it more closely.
I am not trying to discredit what is after all fantastic sculpture, but I agree with all your comments 100%.

a)The "leaning on the sword" pose also bothers me. Although I can't say it never happened, I would imagine that it would only be done while the sword was sheathed. Good find on the illustration Brimmer! (where did that come from?). I rarely rely on illustration alone for samurai subjects, as I have found them often tainted by more than a little romanticism. Doing so is sometimes unavoidable but I always consider doing so to be conjectural.

b)The voluminous sleeves depicted are also problematic for me. I am not familiar with the type of forearm armour depicted on the model. This seems to be a misinterpretation of the forearm plating which was usually sewn onto the lower part of the Kote, which was close fitting to the arm, and would have extended as such, to cover the shoulder.

c)People will probably disagree with me on this but I also find the face to be too western looking.

d)The use of Haidate (thigh protection) is also used on most Samurai models that have been released to date although in Sakakibara Kozan's "Manufacture of Armour and Hemets in 16th century Japan", first published in 1800, he states that "it was, it seems, usually discarded for fighting on foot".
I know this is not definitive evidence and as many illustrations show it in use as don't, but it does seem to make sense to me.

Like Pegaso's earlier "Ronin" piece I see no reason to designate this release as such. There seems to be as much misconception about this term as there is about Ninja. Judging by Pegaso's previous release of a "Ronin" (code 90-045), their only working definintion of the term seems to be a Samurai with long hair and no helmet!

I am not Pegaso bashing here, I have most of their other Samurai models but I am finding their choices of new releases to be both disappointingly safe and repetitive.
There are many personalities who had much more distinctive armour that could be used, such as Honda Tadamasa's shell helmet and western breastplate worn at Osaka, Tokogawa Ieysu's cow hair armour and Maeda Toshiie's Golden armour, as well as many other extreamly distinctive Kabuto and Sashimono styles which have never been modelled. And yet, Pegaso seem to be choosing relatively similar armour styles for their releases.

Akaryu, I tried to open a private conversation about our shared interest but you seem to have withheld your
profile. If you wish to do so, please open a private conversation with me. There are a couple of subjects I would like to hear your opinion on.
 
Very valuable arguments Tadatsugu, I can't but agree with all of them. There are simply too many generic representation of samurai, ronin and ninja. The general idea about ronin seems to be to depict a longhaired rather unkempt individual in full armour and call it a ronin implying no further research into heraldry or history is necessary and hey presto the money comes rolling in! Masterless samurai aka ronin might lose everything and often live in misery but they would keep their pride in their personal appearance.

My profile isn't blocked, but I'll go to private conversation:happy:
 
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