Two part putties are NOT harmless!

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Back from my first gloves session :)

I took Latex ones and had a interesting time kneading Kneadatite as it would stick to the latex despite talcum :D. Later when using tools it got more comfortable. However after about 1 1/2 hours my hands were wet.

Are those clear disposable gloves better suited ?
Maybe we would need some of the same stuff that's used for the Duro ribbons - that doesn't stick too much.

Will try Latex and MS now for a change ;)
 
Originally posted by quang+Nov 7 2004, 10:14 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (quang @ Nov 7 2004, 10:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>They used RADIUM-based paint on these things and the workers who did it used to LICK their brushes to keep the point in shape. :eek:[/b]

Eek! Reminds me of the glazes on some American pottery from the early part of the last century that used a uranium salt, they're now classed as radiation hazards.

Originally posted by fsdesimone@Nov 7 2004, 10:39 PM
Am I the only person who has trouble mixing putty with gloves on? I've tried to do it in the past, but I end up not mixing it thoroughly and the stuff doesn't cure. Maybe I'm not using the right kind of gloves (I had been using latex).
Nope, you're not alone. Luckily MS is pretty easy to mix but I need to get a smaller size of glove as the slack is a bit of a pain. I have rubber gloves but I much prefer polyethylene (?) these are sold for first aid and are much more robust than latex.

Originally posted by fsdesimone@Nov 7 2004, 10:39 PM
Also I've heard that Aves putty is the only one that's completely non-toxic - is that true?
Well apart from specifically telling you to wash your hands after mixing the MagicSculp on the tub labels, the site goes out of its way to reassure us that their putty is non toxic the last time I checked.

Originally posted by Dan Morton@Nov 7 2004, 11:04 PM
I think you can get used to mixing the 2 part putty with gloves on. After putting the 2 parts together, [with gloves on] I rub them back and forth into a long very thin snake.
I've used the 'roll and fold' technique for the basic mixing for years, it's the most efficient way to blend epoxy putties. Before rolling I generally make a 'pancake' of the hardener and wrap it around the resin part since the former is usually less sticky; it's usually harder too and this gives you an opportunity to soften it a bit before beginning.

We should be able to get the MSDS from any maker these days for a product of this kind I would have thought Dan. BTW, since I can ask you, these do provide an impartial analysis of the potential hazards of a product don't they?

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@Nov 8 2004, 08:02 PM
Man, I can't believe anyone puts their hobby tools in their mouth! :eek: [/quote]
Hehehehe, I can't be the only one. Anyone want to own up to pointing their brushes in their mouth? It's not a mistake most oil painters make twice but I bet there are acrylic users out there that do, go on admit it ;)

A very well-known and respected painter called Fechin used to lick his tools when smoothing lead white paint so I don't feel half as stupid as he must have when he got sick!

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Incidentally since we're talking about allergies, some people are allergic to latex so you might have to look for an alternative to rubber gloves. And, achem, apologies for bringing up lubricants in the same breath as latex, but the white powder that's inside gloves to help you put them on varies from make to make, some use talc which people can have allergies to as well so others use corn starch. This has its own set of problems with long-term use, grrr.

Einion
 
Nope, you're not alone. Luckily MS is pretty easy to mix but I need to get a smaller size of glove as the slack is a bit of a pain. I have rubber gloves but I much prefer polyethylene (?) these are sold for first aid and are much more robust than latex.

Heh, yes, the slack is the problem. Unfortunately, I already use the smallest sized gloves!

Well apart from specifically telling you to wash your hands after mixing the MagicSculp on the tub labels, the site goes out of its way to reassure us that their putty is non toxic the last time I checked.

That's what I remembered as well. But I was reading on another site that someone claimed Aves products were the only non-toxic ones.

I've used the 'roll and fold' technique for the basic mixing for years, it's the most efficient way to blend epoxy putties. Before rolling I generally make a 'pancake' of the hardener and wrap it around the resin part since the former is usually less sticky; it's usually harder too and this gives you an opportunity to soften it a bit before beginning.

That's exactly how I do it too. But as you said, the extra glove material gets all caught up with the putty. Ah well.

I haven't had a problem with allergic reactions to putty, but what I have found that I have a problem with is superglue. If I as much as leave the bottle open too long my nose starts twitching like a bunny.
 
I think most of us have that reaction to too much superglue vapour :) I try to never leave mine open after I've squeezed out a drop to apply to a model, it goes off too quickly in humid air and I'm sick of only getting to use a tiny fraction of a tube before it hardens grrr.

Einion
 
I've been traveling on business last week, so this is the first chance I've had to catch up on this thread.

Latex rubber allergies are growing in number in the US population. Many different types of thin gloves would be suitable for protection against 2 part putties. Really the objective is just to keep it off your skin and out of your eyes. I use a one use very thin polyvinyl glove sized to fit very tightly. After working with putty, I wash the outside of the gloves thoroughly with soap and water, turn them inside out, and wash my hands, etc. When I say wash - I mean like a surgeon washes.

On the subj of Ave putty, I don't use it and don't know the manufacturer. So if someone will tell me the manufacturer and their address I'll try to take a look at the MSDS.

On the subj of superglue, stay away from the much stronger industrial varieties. I try to use the thickened, vapor-reduced household types.

Someone asked a question about the accuracy and impartiality of info on a manufacturer's MSDS. The best answer I can give is 'caveat emptor'. Some manufacturers are very responsible and provide accurate and useful info. Example - Duro's MSDS is pretty good. Some are not and you have to pry the info out of them. [No example here - I don't want to be sued!] From the manufacturer's point of view, they are concerned about divulging trademark information on an MSDS and a competitor taking advantage of them. I assume the hobby industry is about as competitive as any other.

If you have some specific questions, I'll try to help.

All the best!
 
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