Walter Von Geroldseck, Bishop Of Strasbourg, 1262 G

[Maki]

Good news. Hope the producer will be satisfied with the sales of the bust and would decide to commercialize your next sculpts as well.

Mario

 

[Einion]

the shield was made of oak boards and covered with skin, thickness of museum shield . Germany approximately from 28-38 mm that on the scale of 1/9 will make the XIII century 3-4 mm.

Which shield in which museum please?

As I mentioned this is just the most evident of the technical issues with the shield, other features aren't quite accurate either I'm afraid. I'll post about them in another thread shortly, if you're interested check it out.

Einion

 

[Fex]

I would like to see your example about which you speak. You approve the first about thickness of a board without having given any example - I would like it to see, after that I will give the example.
If you what that doubt and criticize your words should be supported with documents and photos - I didn't see them, I only heard your words. Set an example I want to see a basis of your words.

When I expressed doubt and I wrote about it provided proofs of the words.
http://www.planetfigure.com/threads...rom-pegaso-models-gaul-chieftain.50971/page-2

You didn't provide anything, and simply stated doubt.

 

[pinsel]

not my fight and i got no dog in it
well sculpturs
there is no thumbrule for shields at all.as always various thicknesses where made
when Einion is worried about the scale thickenss of this shield i would like to point out on his shield on his crusader bust.this is complety wrong
its to small its worn the wrong way and more it features wooden planks vissible on the back........totally wrong
all shields of this date where covered from the back with hide parchment ect.simply because without this an shield is much to instable to endure hard knocks.
so any shield without this inner cover is highly incorrect-but on nearly all figures with shield on sees the single planks.such shield would quit their service after two hard knocks.simply because the glued planks would split open in their bindings and the shield would split.
so please stop quarelling about such crap like the THICKNESS of model shields-once more if the starter of this discussion has already delivered an highy incorrect bust featuring ALL ASPECTS of hetahershaped shield of this date INCORRECT.so one should not give nosy comments when one has done before pure NONSENSE.so make it correct yourselve then teach lessons to others
yes yes i know iam soooooooooooooooo brutal harsh and unfriendly.but i give no nickle on this-
by the way Fex LOVELY WOrk looks sweet

 

[Fex]

..... It is a lot of, many words......

Yes you are right. Some types of shield were kleeny of several layers of a tree and then became covered by thick skin outside and thin inside. If the shield was made of integral oak shield s it would be very heavy. I know it I the material on this matter looked.

I left boards because so it is more beautiful))

 

[Figurenfreund66]

Hi Fex

good news, that bust is a must have !

Cheers

Hendryk

 

[Helm]

I want to report wishing that copies of this bust will be available to purchase on Monday. The producer will announce a release in due course

I'm having one even if I have to paint it silver and pretend it's metal cos I can't paint busts,just for the face

Steve

 

[Ron Tamburrini]

Great face !!
love the hooked nose

Ron

 

[Helm]

Still no announcement

 

[Fex]

Today there will be news. I received only yesterday packing and bust copies
Still a problem in that that I badly know English and it is difficult to me to write news correctly.) Well and payment systems at us in Russia not all operate as it would be desirable.

 

[Helm]

Nice one Fex box art looks great

 

[Fex]

http://www.planetfigure.com/threads...n-geroldseck-bishop-of-strasbourg-1262.51676/

 

[Einion]

I would like to see your example about which you speak. You approve the first about thickness of a board without having given any example - I would like it to see, after that I will give the example.

I said please, that not enough for you? I don't understand, I politely ask you for the reference you use and you insist I have to provide you with supporting information for my claims but pinsel rudely posts that everything about the shield is wrong and you click Like on his post??

If you what that doubt and criticize your words should be supported with documents and photos - I didn't see them, I only heard your words. Set an example I want to see a basis of your words.

You want something specific? One of the pages you just posted seems to support what I've been saying!

I am basing my comments on accumulated information from many sources that I've read over the years, not just one shield or any single publication - that is why I didn't give a specific example, why I refered to "most shields" in my first post. Because you weren't doing a specific shield that still exist, you have depicted a shield of a type - i.e. the average or typical shield. And it is widely documented that shields are typically relatively thin, so we must trust that this was the norm.

You have now admitted that one aspect of the shield is purely because you find it more beautiful. I just wish this had been more clear earlier on, that you hadn't implied that all features were according to your research.

Einion

 

[Einion]

there is no thumbrule for shields at all.as always various thicknesses where made

Of course shields varied, nobody said that they didn't... but the weight of evidence comes down on one side on this point.

so please stop quarelling about such crap like the THICKNESS of model shields-

Oh I'm sorry, I didn't realise you were the arbiter of discussions here on pF

The thickness is one simple feature of shields that is consistently done incorrectly in the hobby, and the simplest to get right, so why not focus on it as a start? That's what I was trying to do.

I said more than once that the thickness was just the most visible/evident of the issues - that's issues plural in case you're still having trouble reading that word properly.

The board edges, and visible woodgrain, were two of the other things I was going to address. The last was the peeling back of the leather covering from the cuts FYI.

For comparison, a previous discussion for anyone who cares:
http://www.planetfigure.com/threads/knights-templar-sheilds.42584/

Einion

 

[Fex]

this discussion has no value.
I have the opinion and it remains with me.
Einion - Me your opinion on this matter doesn't interest.



DIXI (I all told, there is nothing to add. Latin.)

 

[Daniel.M]

Excellent work, especially the face is great.

 

[kagemusha]

Hello Fex, I am really pleased to see your bust is to be a commercial project and wish you every success with it. I personally don't stop to consider the absolute accuracy of a figure, I am drawn to the desire to paint it and, if there are some changes I can make to personalise it, I will. I am a painter, not an historian. I paint for the love of it not for museums. You have created something I would love to paint and that is all that matters to me. Congratulations on your efforts.

Regards

Ron

 

[Fex]

I am really pleased to see your bust is to be a commercial project

From for difficulties of transfer I don't understand much. It is available commercially http://www.planetfigure.com/threads...n-geroldseck-bishop-of-strasbourg-1262.51676/

and now I accept in PAYPAL payment