Water Based Oils

[pete nottingham]

Hi guys;

Have any of you used Winsor & Newton Artisan water based oils, if so, what is the general opinion of them are they good, bad or indifferent?

Pete

 

[housecarl]

Peter, I've tried them, but I prefer acrylics, easier to control and a faster drying time, the price put me off as well. But don't be swayed by me,people that use oils swear by them, you will undoubtedly get more advice off folks more experienced than me. So as the saying goes the choice is yours.
Cheers,
Carl.

 

[pete nottingham]

Must admit Carl I'm starting to get quite a stash of Vallejo acrylics now and I like them a lot.

Pete

 

[Einion]

Pete, water-miscible oils are generally speaking made for leisure painters and the price - and as a result the quality - reflects this. You can do LOTS better in terms of pigmentation and colour choice with regular oil paints.

They don't really offer anything major, other than the ability to thin with water... and they don't do that very well either! Reports of problems with slow drying and a "greasy" finish are common.

If you're interested primarily because you want to avoid turps or regular mineral spirits I'd suggest going with a good low-odour solvent or 'odourless' mineral spirits. W&N's Sansodor is a good one you'll see commonly in the shops in the UK.

Einion

 

[theBaron]

Thanks for the product report, Einion! I've seen these talked about elsewhere in the 'Net, and I might get a tube of a basic color, like a black or a brown, to see how it comes out. But your comments are similar to others I've heard, so I might just pass, or keep it a low priority for my workbench.

 

[pete nottingham]

Thanks Einion, good report, but as I'm getting a good collection of Vallejo now I really think that acrylics is the route I'll be going down, but as I've got 3 tubes of the Artisan oils I was wondering what the opinion was regarding them.

 

[housecarl]

Pete, I will echo what Einion, said I did find them greasy, drying with a slight sheen.
This wasn't a problem, because I was using them to paint all those fleshy bits, great for blending. But as I said drying time, cost. I'll stick with my acrylics. You can use your oils for painting Horses/fur etc, unless they are unsuitable colours of course. There are masters at this skill here on the Planet.
Enjoy,
Carl.

 

[panzervor]

BARON,

If you go th Oil Paint route... there's a Great Oderless Turp out there !! it's called Turpenoid !! CAUTION: you are going to want to get th BLUE Labled one !! It's Oderless,& won't attack your Work like some Mineral Spirits would !! It's great for Puttin' a Wash on with !! it also Mixes Great with MIG's Abtl. Oil Paint as Well As Winsor & Newton's !! AND can be FOund at a Better price than W & N 's turp !!

 

[TWOMOONS]

Hi guys;

Have any of you used Winsor & Newton Artisan water based oils, if so, what is the general opinion of them are they good, bad or indifferent?

Pete

I come from the time when "you must use oils or we'll kill you" belief.
Although I prefer the excellent acrylics out there available today, I always use oils for some part of the figure...without question. Like blush on a cheek, or a blurred line between colors that is neccessary.
The water based oils are all I use, as I have a problem with turps and standard oil mediums. They are fine.