where can I find a Miliput® in **Poland**
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Dear Julian,
If there is no milliput, you can use 2 parts epoxy putty which is available in your local hardware store. these putties are used for mending porcelins, pipes and etc. They are also cheaper than milliput which I believe are overrated.
You can check out my site under the WIP page to see what the these epoxy putty can do.
regards
If there is no milliput, you can use 2 parts epoxy putty which is available in your local hardware store. these putties are used for mending porcelins, pipes and etc. They are also cheaper than milliput which I believe are overrated.
You can check out my site under the WIP page to see what the these epoxy putty can do.
regards
Hi,
I'll ask on another forum where I know a few Polish sculptors to be hanging around. I'll get back to you if they can help.
As to do it yourself epoxy putties, do keep in mind that there is a lot of variation in quality and not all of them are suitable for surface sculpting. Some are close to sculpting putties like Milliput (Nural 34 has been used succesfully for 28mm sculpting) while others are useless. For instance since they are not fine enough, too fast curing, etc, etc.
y_wong. What brand is the hardware putty you're using? I'm maintaining a list of putty suppliers for another group and it's always good to add alternatives like the one you're using (WIPs look good: nice job on drapery).
Jools_jl, what size do you want to sculpt in?
Bye, Ming-Hua
I'll ask on another forum where I know a few Polish sculptors to be hanging around. I'll get back to you if they can help.
As to do it yourself epoxy putties, do keep in mind that there is a lot of variation in quality and not all of them are suitable for surface sculpting. Some are close to sculpting putties like Milliput (Nural 34 has been used succesfully for 28mm sculpting) while others are useless. For instance since they are not fine enough, too fast curing, etc, etc.
y_wong. What brand is the hardware putty you're using? I'm maintaining a list of putty suppliers for another group and it's always good to add alternatives like the one you're using (WIPs look good: nice job on drapery).
Jools_jl, what size do you want to sculpt in?
Bye, Ming-Hua
Ok, already got a reply. It turns out one of the sculptors is from Poznan too. Here are the stores he mentioned:
"Bard" on sw Marcin
"Wilczek"
He told me to send you his e-mail address in case you have other questions. I'll private mail it to you.
"Bard" on sw Marcin
"Wilczek"
He told me to send you his e-mail address in case you have other questions. I'll private mail it to you.
Dear Ming-Hua,
I started off with milliput but eventually switched to the epoxy putty as it is very much better and definitely cheap. With a little talcum powder, you can roll it into very thin sheet without any sticking or tearing that one experience with milliput. As for the capturing of fine details, it is definitely far superior to milliput. Upon curing, it is rock solid. I become a convert once I was introduced to it becasue of the above mentioned.
regards
I started off with milliput but eventually switched to the epoxy putty as it is very much better and definitely cheap. With a little talcum powder, you can roll it into very thin sheet without any sticking or tearing that one experience with milliput. As for the capturing of fine details, it is definitely far superior to milliput. Upon curing, it is rock solid. I become a convert once I was introduced to it becasue of the above mentioned.
regards
quang
A Fixture
Hello Wong,
Calvin Tan told me about a local (Singapore) brand of hardware putty that he was using for his sculpts. Guess it's the same as yours.
On the other hand, I think that the issue is NOT so much in the putty. Like often with artistic disciplines, it's the techniques that have to adapt to the medium/tool and not the other way round.
I've tried several types of putty and came to the conclusion that the best putty is the one I have currently at hand. The specifics of each brand will reflect on the final result of course, but it would also force me to put aside my technical 'habits' (good or bad) and try out some new things to make up for the 'deficiencies' of the putty.
IMHO of course. Happy New Year!
Q.
Calvin Tan told me about a local (Singapore) brand of hardware putty that he was using for his sculpts. Guess it's the same as yours.
On the other hand, I think that the issue is NOT so much in the putty. Like often with artistic disciplines, it's the techniques that have to adapt to the medium/tool and not the other way round.
I've tried several types of putty and came to the conclusion that the best putty is the one I have currently at hand. The specifics of each brand will reflect on the final result of course, but it would also force me to put aside my technical 'habits' (good or bad) and try out some new things to make up for the 'deficiencies' of the putty.
IMHO of course. Happy New Year!
Q.
Dear Quang,
Yes it is the same type of putty that Calvin used. I do agreed with you that one should adapt but I also have preference for something that is cheap and yet allow one to achieve the desired result. Hence I always try to make do with cheap alternatives for all my project.
A Happy New Year to you and your family.
regards
Yes it is the same type of putty that Calvin used. I do agreed with you that one should adapt but I also have preference for something that is cheap and yet allow one to achieve the desired result. Hence I always try to make do with cheap alternatives for all my project.
A Happy New Year to you and your family.
regards
Hi Y-wong,
thanks for the reply. This way I know a bit more what the putty is like. I like using Milliput as a medium to compare too since so many people know it.
As to technique adapting to the medium. This is why you find sculptors having a preference for specific putties. The techniques fit them better. For instance, over at 1listsculpting the main medium is Kneadatite blue/yellow (green stuff) which is a little chewinggum like. Over at the Creafigs and figurines_fr many prefer to use Fimo polymer clay which is softer and will only harden when baked. Here I see that many use what I call hard putties like Milliput and A&B which are more claylike and cure rockhard. All these groups produce good 54 and 28mm sculpts independent of medium.
In some cases it is possible to adapt medium to technique though. My main putty is green stuff of which special techniques are based on a surface that will not tear and has some memory. Push and pull techniques for instance. I also know how to use Milliput which is much softer, can be manipulated with water and unlike GS becomes rockhard after curing making it possible to file, sand, carve and scrape. In some cases I want to sculpt like with GS and scrape afterwards. To do this I will make a mix of GS and milliput which gives me a putty where both sets of techniques can be used. Another example is Grey matter putty. At the start this feels like Milliput while after some curing it starts to behave a little like green stuff. So here you can choose your prefered technique by choosing the time you let the putty sit before sculpting.
Same thing with tools. Tools will be suited for certain tasks but if you know toolmaking it's possible to adapt or make tools specifically for your prefered techniques. You can sometimes see this when you've got a bunch of miniature sculptors together. You'll often find that each has different primary tools and most have specific modified and homemade tools.
Oh, and a happy new year to all and all you know.
Bye, Ming-Hua
thanks for the reply. This way I know a bit more what the putty is like. I like using Milliput as a medium to compare too since so many people know it.
As to technique adapting to the medium. This is why you find sculptors having a preference for specific putties. The techniques fit them better. For instance, over at 1listsculpting the main medium is Kneadatite blue/yellow (green stuff) which is a little chewinggum like. Over at the Creafigs and figurines_fr many prefer to use Fimo polymer clay which is softer and will only harden when baked. Here I see that many use what I call hard putties like Milliput and A&B which are more claylike and cure rockhard. All these groups produce good 54 and 28mm sculpts independent of medium.
In some cases it is possible to adapt medium to technique though. My main putty is green stuff of which special techniques are based on a surface that will not tear and has some memory. Push and pull techniques for instance. I also know how to use Milliput which is much softer, can be manipulated with water and unlike GS becomes rockhard after curing making it possible to file, sand, carve and scrape. In some cases I want to sculpt like with GS and scrape afterwards. To do this I will make a mix of GS and milliput which gives me a putty where both sets of techniques can be used. Another example is Grey matter putty. At the start this feels like Milliput while after some curing it starts to behave a little like green stuff. So here you can choose your prefered technique by choosing the time you let the putty sit before sculpting.
Same thing with tools. Tools will be suited for certain tasks but if you know toolmaking it's possible to adapt or make tools specifically for your prefered techniques. You can sometimes see this when you've got a bunch of miniature sculptors together. You'll often find that each has different primary tools and most have specific modified and homemade tools.
Oh, and a happy new year to all and all you know.
Bye, Ming-Hua
Piotr Czyz
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Hi,
you can buy milliput in Warsaw at Jadar Shop. They have all sorts of Milliput. I'm not sure if they can send it to you, but you can call them (let me know if you don’t know that shop or their telephone number). Unfortunately I don't have idea whether or not it is possible to buy Milliput in Poznan.
Regards,
Piotr
you can buy milliput in Warsaw at Jadar Shop. They have all sorts of Milliput. I'm not sure if they can send it to you, but you can call them (let me know if you don’t know that shop or their telephone number). Unfortunately I don't have idea whether or not it is possible to buy Milliput in Poznan.
Regards,
Piotr
Piotr Czyz
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I prefer 'Superfine White' but I haven't tried other types . It costs at about 45 PLN per package.
Regards,
Piotr
. It costs at about 45 PLN per package.Regards,
Piotr
I checked on Jadar http://jadarhobby.home.pl/index.php?cPath=...f0006cd6630bc85 like you said about miliput and I found 4 types.. :lol: hihi Milliput Superfine (White) cost 46pln [+psesyłka]
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