Woodland Indian

[John Long]

Here's the Woodland Indian ca. 1760 I've been working on.

 

[Guy]

He looks great John.....what size is he?.......is he for a new scene or to be done by himself. Keep up the great work....

Guy

 

[quang]

So far so good, John.

Looking forward to the next step.

Best wishes,
Quang

 

[John Long]

Thanks guys.

Quang, I picked up the Robert Griffing book in Chicago a couple of weeks ago. It's so full of inspiration. I have another in 120mm for a master going as well. The headdresses of these guys baffled me until I got the book. When you did the "Hawkeye" figure did you do the headdress seperately?

Guy, it's 54mm. I used a Hornet head, and Historex hands.

 

[gordy]

oooo.. very nice

 

[quang]

John,

I suspected that you've bought the Griffing book!

I had to refrain myself NOT buying it because it would be too easy to draw my inspiration from/copy it. I know, I'm a masochist at times!

What do you mean by 'doing the headdress separately'? As far as I can remember, the hair/ribbons was moulded on the head with a separate bunch of feathers, if that answers your question.

Quang

 

[John Long]

Yes, that answers my question. Thanks. The Griffing book was a huge help in the hair/headdress area. All of my other references had the subjects facing the viewer. I can see why copying it would be so easy. This was a very interesting culture.

 

[quang]

When it comes to the 18th-cent. woodlands Indians, my preference goes to Lee Teter's works which have a quieter yet menacing and inward quality. Also very accurate detail-wise.

Not as prolific, widespread and popular as Griffing but worth checking all the same.

http://www.leeteter.com/bio.asp

Quang

 

[LCoote]

Great stuff John , and what's the Griffing book that you mention ?

 

[garyjd]

Leigh, The book is a collection of the Eastern Frontier art of Robert Griffing. While I like Griffing's work, I much prefer the look and feel of tTter's work. His work has more of a period feel. Here's the cover of the Griffing book.~gary

 

[LCoote]

I much prefer the look and feel of tTter's work. His work has more of a period feel.

Gary, would you still consider Griffing's book to be useful ( accurate) reference? The cover looks good.

 

[garyjd]

Leigh, The book is great. The text is by a noted period historian. In addition to paintings the book is filled with actual Native items and reproductions that are carried/worn by the models who pose for the paintings. This is one of my favorites from the book. Enjoy.~Gary

 

[LCoote]

Thanks Gary ! Yes beautiful artwork indeed, very inspirational. I'll certainly track it down.

 

[gordy]

indeed!

 

[Guy]

I checked through Amazon.com and they listed the book for $55.00, but was not available.

Guy

 

[John Long]

Griffing prints online. I tried Borders and Barnes&Noble first. Same story, listed, but not available. I was told it's only available through the publisher.

 

[Guy]

Thanks for that link John. I will call my bookseller here in OKC and see if they can locate me a copy. Until then I saved the link for reference when I do PiliPili's Huron. Good reference pics on that link you posted

Guy

 

[garyjd]

Guys, Robert Griffing attends the annual event at the Bushy Run Battlefield where he's available to talk about his work, which he normally brings his latest in-progress painting. The Bushy Run website sells the book at the battlefield's visitor center. go to

www.bushyrunbattlefield.com


the site index has either "gift shop" or "store front" (can't remember), anyway go to the book section and scroll down. you'll find it for $55.~Gary

 

[RobH]

John

looking good; have you done some resculpting of the facial features? Any photo's?

Have you seen Alan Ball's Vignette? It's painted (by Marion) and is on the HZ Forum.

For those after the Griffing book, if you wait until monday, I may be able to find a few copies (fingers crossed)


cheers

Rob

 

[John Long]

Rob, I have seen it. I saw the in progress work in Chicago. It's outstanding.

I did rework the face a little. I used a Hornet head and added a more prominent nose, higher cheekbones and heavier brow. The expression on the head had a more perplexed expression than I wanted.