Junior Officer Scots Greys 1815 - Future Release.

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MCPWilk said:
This is superbly done. There are inaccuracies with the use of the reins and the bit is too bulky, which, like weapons, is often the case with scale models. The stirrups are also too bulky. If he is holding one pair of reins, it should be the curb rein, not the snaffle rein, but cavalry officers of the time were usually outstanding horseman who seemed to regard a cavalry charge as only one step up from hunting, much to Wellington's disquiet (!), and would usually have hold of both reins. Men-at-Arms No.138, British Cavalry Equipments 1800 - 1941 and Chapter five of British Napoleonic Uniforms by Franklin, both have detaails of cavalry bridles of the time. The latter also shows how the reins were held, which was also in the Historex catalogues of the past. Franklin's book is a mine and wealth of information for any British Wellingtonian modellers.

Mike
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Thanks Mike I appreciate information. I will still buy the kit but it looks so good I might have skipped the usual research I do if you hadn't have prompted me.

David
 
Grod said:
Thanks for the support Folks which is always appreciated.
Nello will divide the sculpt into parts and send these files to Tommi Worton who will print them for moulding and casting. Tommi will also work out the scales and formats to be used such as conventional bust, v bust,horse bust etc.
I hope to have at least one variation available for Christmas, probably 120mm.
Cheers
Gordon
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I know it's difficult but in these days when new tempting releases are coming out from someone every day I'd rather you wait until an item is ready in the full range of intended scales before announcing or releasing.
I bought one kit from your stand in 120mm as it was the only one you had - I then questioned myself if I should have waited for the 75mm version (which hasn't yet been announced) - This can work in reverse too.
At a show, which is where I tend to buy, i admit I get too tempted by the new releases. It's one thing to say a kit will be available in different sizes but another to see the difference in the flesh. That's my bad, but having each scale available avoids later buyers remorse.
Not a critisism, just some customer feedback for you to consider.
The new Nello releases are superb.
David
 
The Riveteer said:
I know it's difficult but in these days when new tempting releases are coming out from someone every day I'd rather you wait until an item is ready in the full range of intended scales before announcing or releasing.
I bought one kit from your stand in 120mm as it was the only one you had - I then questioned myself if I should have waited for the 75mm version (which hasn't yet been announced) - This can work in reverse too.
At a show, which is where I tend to buy, i admit I get too tempted by the new releases. It's one thing to say a kit will be available in different sizes but another to see the difference in the flesh. That's my bad, but having each scale available avoids later buyers remorse.
Not a critisism, just some customer feedback for you to consider.
The new Nello releases are superb.
David
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I'm afraid you are going you have to try to live with your remorse David as I will be continuing to release kits in the same way.
Cheers
Gordon
 
The Riveteer said:
I know it's difficult but in these days when new tempting releases are coming out from someone every day I'd rather you wait until an item is ready in the full range of intended scales before announcing or releasing.
I bought one kit from your stand in 120mm as it was the only one you had - I then questioned myself if I should have waited for the 75mm version (which hasn't yet been announced) - This can work in reverse too.
At a show, which is where I tend to buy, i admit I get too tempted by the new releases. It's one thing to say a kit will be available in different sizes but another to see the difference in the flesh. That's my bad, but having each scale available avoids later buyers remorse.
Not a critisism, just some customer feedback for you to consider.
The new Nello releases are superb.
David
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The problem with releasing all scales, busts and other variations is time because of all the work involved getting stuff scaled printed, cleaned up, sprued up, into mould, moulds cut then tested, also how many mould sets are made at one time per scale of figure. Then the casting process to produce the parts. Doing this for say a 120mm mounted piece can take up to one month from start to finish and that’s not taking into account any other projects that are coming in or running along side of this. So if we were to say produce all the variations of the model, approximately 6 products, it would take six months and like I said this is without doing anything else. From a business point of view it’s impractical to do this as dead money over a long period that needs to pay for other projects. It is difficult for most to understand the vastness and workload that is within RDG and MMM to get these new products out to you guys that have seen only the 3d render then the parts in the box when the postman delivers. We all try our best in the business to deliver eventually everything that is shown but like I specified there is a practical and business point of view and sometimes we have to wait a little longer for what we want.
Tommi
 
Tommi said:
The problem with releasing all scales, busts and other variations is time because of all the work involved getting stuff scaled printed, cleaned up, sprued up, into mould, moulds cut then tested, also how many mould sets are made at one time per scale of figure. Then the casting process to produce the parts. Doing this for say a 120mm mounted piece can take up to one month from start to finish and that’s not taking into account any other projects that are coming in or running along side of this. So if we were to say produce all the variations of the model, approximately 6 products, it would take six months and like I said this is without doing anything else. From a business point of view it’s impractical to do this as dead money over a long period that needs to pay for other projects. It is difficult for most to understand the vastness and workload that is within RDG and MMM to get these new products out to you guys that have seen only the 3d render then the parts in the box when the postman delivers. We all try our best in the business to deliver eventually everything that is shown but like I specified there is a practical and business point of view and sometimes we have to wait a little longer for what we want.
Tommi
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Thanks Tommi, That explains that problem very well.
I'm not a buisness man and I'm not trying to teach Grandma to suck eggs here. I know whatever you do someone will ask for a different scale but maybe having too much choice is in itself a problem. Wouldn't just producing a figure in one scale from the off make it easier for you to meet your production schedules?
I suppose you have more potential sales by producing it in different scales but most other companies just pick one scale and we usually accept that.
Wouldn't specializing in. say 120mm (or any other scale of your choice) help avoid those production headaches you've mentioned and reduce your overheads/costs at the same time? Less profit across the counter; but maybe less cost and less stress would balance that out.

Grod said:
I'm afraid you are going you have to try to live with your remorse David as I will be continuing to release kits in the same way.
Cheers
Gordon
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O.K. Will do.

David
 
David
Specializing producing a piece in only one scale defeats the whole point of having a digital sculpt done in every way possible. Digital sculpt offers choice for the modeller for their favourite scales and the guys that also only buy and paint busts etc. Also income from a single scale is limiting any profit margin that is made if any if that particular model and scale is not to everyone’s liking. Going back only a short time with traditional sculpt releases people always give the WOW statements followed by I wish it was 120mm or 75mm or 200mm, now we have that option for everyone in the modelling community so this helps towards income from the multi scale projects to pay for new projects to the modellers out there. Like I explained earlier it’s a long process and more that some people can comprehend not knowing about the technology, work and time involved. From a business point of view there is no point paying a price these days for a traditional sculpted piece and limiting your market and income to just that scale when the same piece can be done digitally for a set price that can be done in multi scales and busts. Like I said sometimes we have to wait a bit longer to get what we want but it all comes eventually.
Tommi
 
Had to chuckle at some of the comments above.

It always used to be "it's great but why can't we have it in XX scale?"

Now all manner of options are (or soon will be) available and it's "it's great but why not do it in just one scale?"

Just goes to prove: Ya can't please all of the people all of the time!! :D

- Steve
 
Babelfish said:
Had to chuckle at some of the comments above.

It always used to be "it's great but why can't we have it in XX scale?"

Now all manner of options are (or soon will be) available and it's "it's great but why not do it in just one scale?"

Just goes to prove: Ya can't please all of the people all of the time!! :D

- Steve
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I thought the exact same thing. Figure manufacturers must be driven to utter exasperation at times.

Gary
 
Hi, Everyone!
Big thanks, Gordon for this release!
One for me... at least one.
Having said that, with regard to different scales and with the aim of being constructive, if it is produced as big as the 230mm Henry V, I'd take it.
Cheers!

Iñaki
 
It is interesting to read the comments here and the very succinct replies from Gordon and Tommi.

I think it is wise to pause and reflect on both the quality, diversity and sheer volume of scales and products coming onto the market aided by Computer modelling, 3d printing and resin casting, as modellers, my view is that we have never had it so good.

It is also wise to be mindful of the problems that this can cause for suppliers particularly when it comes to the range of scales and adjustments to a computer rendering that can be achieved, 54, 75, 90, 120, 180, 200 etc etc....then of course "lets have a bust", head and shoulders, part torso, head shoulders and horse, etc , etc.......Not easy is it?

Imagine the balancing act, obviously it is impossible to forecast sales on everything (wouldn't life be easy) and what about stock levels, how many types and how many of each type? With very large scales and resin expensive there is a real risk of expensive stock sitting around unsold.

I'm not a producer but it doesn't take too much imagination to understand the compexities for suppliers and stockists as well as the benefits of the new ways of bringing a figure to market!

In mitigation, as a modeller it is very helpful when a producer is able to notify in advance the intended scales and conversions of a particular product,
but I fully understand why they hesitate.

Perhaps as a modeller clear in your mind of what you are looking for it is best to contact the producer to see if there is any likelihood of production. If enough others share your requirement then perhaps it will enable a limited run of a particular scale.

Keith.
 
Just jumping in here as a manufacturer we use 3D most of the time, we settled on 75mm for our range as it was a popular scale. We have made busts from some of our range and even 120mm ( the sacking of Panama) it was our first foyer into multi scales and have to say trying to produce all three together was a nightmare. But we learned from it now we have we release a 3D figure it’s 75mm, once in production we then take a look at can we do a Bust is their enough people who want a larger scale?

We decided to produce a bust for the Mississippi figure because we had a very big response from customers who wanted it. This then made it viable to produce. It’s a delicate balance as to what scale to produce. But if in the future people ask for the larger scale of a particular 3D figure we can produce it as we have the files and equipment to do so. People ask would well we sell files , short answer to that is no we don’t.

So I can appreciate what both Gordon and Tommi were saying about time scales. It does take time but it gets there in the end. If the demand is there then I’m sure they will be done.

Steve

TFB Miniatures Team
 

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