MarquisMini
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Keith, marvelous job mate, it's coming along really nice, i admire your sculpting.
this is going to be a great piece of work.
Best regards
this is going to be a great piece of work.
Best regards
WIP Critique 200mm Royal Fusiliers (plus Legs)
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Wings5797
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Hi Daniel,
Thank you for commenting on this piece. I am pleased that you like it Mate.
A slight aside from figures, how did the wedding go. Well I hope?
All the best,
Keith
Thank you for commenting on this piece. I am pleased that you like it Mate.
A slight aside from figures, how did the wedding go. Well I hope?
All the best,
Keith
MarquisMini
A Fixture
everything went well Keith, ceremony and party was great, then spent few days with family visiting Mickey mouse , so ,i will have to gather some money for the honeymoon
.Thanks for asking.
Best regards
MarquisMini
A Fixture
Did you struggle a little with the drum?, cause that is one item that i normally i don't like painting and it takes a painstaking process to get it right, yours for what i see is a first class job,really nice and the colors are great.
cheers
cheers
Wings5797
A Fixture
Hi Daniel,
I am pleased that the wedding went well. We love Micky Mouse in Florida and with a lot of snow here wish that we were there now.
The drum was not so bad. I made the drum and painted it before I put the rope onto it. Even if the drum is cast complete with the rope I remove the rope and paint the crest then make and replace the rope. It is not as bad as it sounds.
All the very best wishes to you and your new partner,
Keith
Wings5797
A Fixture
Hi Keith ,
As others have said you are doing a great job on this , thanks for the details about the plume ...very effective indeed .
Glad you found the review of some use on the gorget ..looks good
Bring on the Reds young man ...........
"Legs Brigade" .......great stuff
always a pleasure to see wht the gang does to my beloved busts !!!
Keep posting
Nap
Hello Kevin,
Here is a photo taken at last Sundays Church Parade of the 1st Battalion of the "Legs Brigade"
The regulations prevent me telling you why we have to carry two house bricks when we are in full dress uniform but I will leave it to your and others imaginations.
Cheers,
Keith
MarquisMini
A Fixture
lol,i nteresting uniform Keith!Hello Kevin,
Here is a photo taken at last Sundays Church Parade of the 1st Battalion of the "Legs Brigade"
The regulations prevent me telling you why we have to carry two house bricks when we are in full dress uniform but I will leave it to your and others imaginations.
Cheers,
Keith
lol,i nteresting uniform Keith!
Hi Guys ,
I am sure I have seen a jumper like that in Jimbo's wardrobe ome to think f it I am sure I had a hand knitted one from my mum at e stage !!!) ..and the knotted hanky as well ...as for the 2 bricks ..well no comment............
and he has hairy legs ...apparently
Nap
Wings5797
A Fixture
Good Morning Kevin and Daniel
I don't want to go down the tank top road again.......although it was a legendary thread.
Enough to say that Jim's jumper, as the Poobah in Chief, is of a much more ornate design with golden (coloured) wool on the shoulders. He can also be identified by his turned down wellie tops.
We really should get the said Jimbo to sculpt a full figure of the Brigade in full dress uniform and then you could do a review here Kevin.What do you think Mate, should we lobby Him to get cracking on it?
Hi Daniel,
This uniform ( the Gumby) was developed through years of battles on the shores of the United Kingdom fighting to secure positions on many of the beaches whilst trying to avoid confrontation with the Deckchair Collectors Armies. Although the Deckchair Collectors can be seen on Europes beach heads the Gumby never really took off in the Civilised World
Cheers to you both Gentlemen,
Keith
I don't want to go down the tank top road again.......although it was a legendary thread.
Enough to say that Jim's jumper, as the Poobah in Chief, is of a much more ornate design with golden (coloured) wool on the shoulders. He can also be identified by his turned down wellie tops.
We really should get the said Jimbo to sculpt a full figure of the Brigade in full dress uniform and then you could do a review here Kevin.What do you think Mate, should we lobby Him to get cracking on it?
Hi Daniel,
This uniform ( the Gumby) was developed through years of battles on the shores of the United Kingdom fighting to secure positions on many of the beaches whilst trying to avoid confrontation with the Deckchair Collectors Armies. Although the Deckchair Collectors can be seen on Europes beach heads the Gumby never really took off in the Civilised World
Cheers to you both Gentlemen,
Keith
Hi Keith ,
Thats what they were called "tank tops" ...a veritable icon of fashiOn ...impressed the ladies ....NOT .or maybe it was the pop socks and leg warmers .........
"legendary thread" ...like that
Good idea about Jimbo doing a figure of the brigade "a la mode" ..would be a great thread .......I know he hasn't got too much on his bench..............
over to you Jimbo ......
Back on thread now love what you are doing with this bust ... I guess at Figureworld in July teh "Legs Brigade" will have to hve their own stand!!!!
Nap
Thats what they were called "tank tops" ...a veritable icon of fashiOn ...impressed the ladies ....NOT
.or maybe it was the pop socks and leg warmers ........."legendary thread" ...like that
Good idea about Jimbo doing a figure of the brigade "a la mode" ..would be a great thread .......I know he hasn't got too much on his bench
..............over to you Jimbo ......
Back on thread now love what you are doing with this bust ... I guess at Figureworld in July teh "Legs Brigade" will have to hve their own stand!!!!
Nap
PhilinYuma
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Ouch! After all this advanced uniform stuff, I'm a bit hesitant in making my own modest contribution, but this figure is so seriously excellent that I thought that I'd try to check out whether or not a soldier would really put his foot on his own (as opposed to an enemy's captured) drum. I think not for two reasons. He would risk damaging the drum, and he is putting his foot on his own colors. I served myself, and I can almost hear the drum major screaming at the poor chap to get his "fecally contaminated boot off my mother loving drum!" I know of no regulation against it, though, so I sought expert advice from Sarah Deters Richardson at the Edinburgh University Collection of Historic Musical Instruments. I got a very full reply from her today that says, in part:
This is an interesting question and one that has sparked some rather nice discussion here at EUCHMI. In general my answer is that having a musician pose with his foot on his drum is not appropriate. I have not been able to find any regulation stating that this is disrespectful, but as far as I have been able to find, this is not a historically accurate pose (in addition I shudder to think of placing a foot on a drum - how terrible for the drum!). If you search through historic paintings, prints, and early photographs, the majority of drummers will either pose with their drum slung on their side in playing position, stand beside the drum which is either placed on the floor or on a table with their drum sticks in hand, or pose while sitting in a chair with the drum beside them. There are images showing drummers sitting on their drums, but these are typically candid "camp" scenes images from the American civil war - how "candid" the scenes actually are is up for debate. I have attached a number of images that show these typical poses. One is even of a Royal Fusilier with his drum.
I also agree that placing one's foot on a regimental drum seems very disrespectful towards the regiment. I just do not believe it would have been done, especially since the drums are often emblazoned with the company's colours and crest.
So there you have it. Nothing definite, but please think about it. She also added a brief bibliography that included Barty-King Hugh, THE DRUM, Horse Guards, Whitehall, London, 1988. I just bought a copy on Amazon (the U.S. site) for a penny plus shipping, and I'm sure that there will be a big rush on it from forum members, so get yours now!
Cheers
This is an interesting question and one that has sparked some rather nice discussion here at EUCHMI. In general my answer is that having a musician pose with his foot on his drum is not appropriate. I have not been able to find any regulation stating that this is disrespectful, but as far as I have been able to find, this is not a historically accurate pose (in addition I shudder to think of placing a foot on a drum - how terrible for the drum!). If you search through historic paintings, prints, and early photographs, the majority of drummers will either pose with their drum slung on their side in playing position, stand beside the drum which is either placed on the floor or on a table with their drum sticks in hand, or pose while sitting in a chair with the drum beside them. There are images showing drummers sitting on their drums, but these are typically candid "camp" scenes images from the American civil war - how "candid" the scenes actually are is up for debate. I have attached a number of images that show these typical poses. One is even of a Royal Fusilier with his drum.
I also agree that placing one's foot on a regimental drum seems very disrespectful towards the regiment. I just do not believe it would have been done, especially since the drums are often emblazoned with the company's colours and crest.
So there you have it. Nothing definite, but please think about it. She also added a brief bibliography that included Barty-King Hugh, THE DRUM, Horse Guards, Whitehall, London, 1988. I just bought a copy on Amazon (the U.S. site) for a penny plus shipping, and I'm sure that there will be a big rush on it from forum members, so get yours now!
Cheers
Gaudin
A Fixture
That is quite an interesting point and well thought through. I salute to you as well because of how maturely you presented it - some people could really learn from it.
G
Wings5797
A Fixture
Hi Phillip,
Good research, I mused the subject for weeks and still have not settled on the object for the Officer to rest his foot on. I am currently sculpting the drummer, so the decision as to the fate of the drum is still open. From what I posted earlier in the thread you can read that I agree with Sarah Deters Richardson, this would never happen in a posed picture but a defiant stance after a hard battle in the Peninsula?
Good advice on the book; The Drum. I have got a copy, sadly mine did not cost only one penny.
Cheers,
Keith
Good research, I mused the subject for weeks and still have not settled on the object for the Officer to rest his foot on. I am currently sculpting the drummer, so the decision as to the fate of the drum is still open. From what I posted earlier in the thread you can read that I agree with Sarah Deters Richardson, this would never happen in a posed picture but a defiant stance after a hard battle in the Peninsula?
Good advice on the book; The Drum. I have got a copy, sadly mine did not cost only one penny.
Cheers,
Keith
Wings5797
A Fixture
I have been thinking this through all day Mike.
My initial sketch did show the barrel as an idea along with a French drum. Though this will not go down well with my friends here in France, salt being rubbed into an old wound and all that.
I really like the idea of the artillery bucket. Do you have any information on the possible sizes these may come in?
Thanks for the interest and ideas you have shown this one, it is really appreciated.
All the very best
Keith
Jimbo
A Fixture
What's wrong with me tanktop and wellies??..That's what you call a fashion statement!
Cheers
Jim
Cheers
Jim
Gaudin
A Fixture
Great idea.
Actually fairly easy to sculpt - one needs to learn basket weaving and get alot of wire. Circle of pins into wooden to pin into wooden board and Bob is your uncle. then fill with clay, add texture with brush or a rock.
Should look very cool.
Actually fairly easy to sculpt - one needs to learn basket weaving and get alot of wire. Circle of pins into wooden to pin into wooden board and Bob is your uncle. then fill with clay, add texture with brush or a rock.
Should look very cool.
Wings5797
A Fixture
Good call Steve.
I do not know too much about these but I have seen them in Crimean pictures.
Were they partially sunken into the ground and filled with soil? The height above ground needs to be 18" for the figure.
Do you think that this will be OK?
Cheers Mate,
Keith
I do not know too much about these but I have seen them in Crimean pictures.
Were they partially sunken into the ground and filled with soil? The height above ground needs to be 18" for the figure.
Do you think that this will be OK?
Cheers Mate,
Keith
Gaudin
A Fixture
Another idea - how about a broken cannon? Tilted and scatterd, broken wheels, half buried in soil (so you have to sculpt less) etc. Could also accomodate gambion into that.
Should look quite cool, but will need more effort - but that way you can adjust the hight to whatever you want without any offence to accuracy.
Should look quite cool, but will need more effort - but that way you can adjust the hight to whatever you want without any offence to accuracy.
