60th Regiment of Foot Royal Americans F&I War

[captnenglish]

Does anyone have a good clear reference for a grenadier of the above?

 

[Jason W.]

Embleton did a study for Osprey (Wolfe's Army #48). It's a bit dated, so I'm not sure how accurate it is. Maybe Gary D. can chime in here.

I can post the image if you want.

Jason

 

[captnenglish]

I have that plate and have the same doubts as you, but thanks for the tip

 

[Jason W.]

Matt, Embleton did a revised illustration in the 1997 edition. I have both the 1974 and '97 books. The only difference I notice, in the newer version, is the lack of a "bag" flap on the fur cap.

The plate description says "No picture of the uniform of the other ranks of the 60th survives from earlier than 1768. For this reconstruction we have presumed that grenadiers followed the dress of the line troops closely..."

I think the key word is "presumed".

You peaked my interest in this unit as there is a reenactment group close by that does an impression of the 60th. I did a little homework on them and they "presumed" their impression also.

What you working on BTW?

 

[captnenglish]

Thanks Jason, I don't have the '97 revision, so thank you for the info. I am aware of the reenactment group and that is one of the things that lead to my confusion. As to the project, yesterday at a club meeting, I picked up an old (C. 1978) "American Grenadier French and Indian War" figure, the box art/painting instructions are for the New Jersey Regiment, but there is a note that states that the figure can be painted as virtually any British Grenadier from the period, so I thought I'd go with the 60th Foot. I found a plate by the COMH, which shows the same mitre cap as on the figure and on most figures from the period (1750's-early 1760s) which is different from Embelton I know as an academic, I shouldn't "presume" anything and that I should do all the research possible, but in this case, if it's good enough for Embelton, it's good enough for me Again thanks

 

[garyjd]

Matt, What is confusing about the Embleton plate is that it shows a 60th grenadier of 1759 wearing a cap typical of the innovations adopted in the early 1760's. How could this be? I know that grenadiers of the 42nd Highlanders had fur caps, but know of no information that shows the 60th with fur caps. It's interesting that in the movie The last of the Mohicans there are some grenadiers from the 60th shown with fur caps which was probably taken from Embleton as the source. In my opinion the cap front would be blue with the small flap in front and bag of the cap in red. The flap would have the white horse of Hanover and the GR cypher in various colors (have to check on those). This is just one of many areas that are sometimes open up to various interpretations.~Gary

 

[captnenglish]

Thanks Gary. I have attached the COMH plate which shows a grenadier of the 60th (albeit an officer as opposed the OR figure I am working on), but the uniform is pretty much the same pattern. The problem is that it's BW, but I think I can use the Embelton plate for the basics and might just have to figure out the exact colors for the cap, but your suggestion seems pretty much on target (big surprize )

 

[garyjd]

Matt, You may want to check out this book. It looks like it might be a "must have" for the library. ~Gary

http://www.heritagebooks.com/mm5/me...ore_Code=HBI&Product_Code=K4480&Category_Code=

 

[captnenglish]

Thanks for the tip

 

[Jason W.]

Color version

Matt, here's a close up of the grenadier's cap in color. Not sure what the lace/scroll work is on the "bag" part but gives you an idea.

Gary, looks like a handy book!

J

 

[captnenglish]

Thanks!