WIP A Hill To Far - Warwickshire Yeomanry, Gallipoli 1915

[Chrisr]

Hi Marcus,

This is Scimitar Hill taken from Green Hill looking east (the latter was held by 29th Division prior to the attack on 21 August)

and moving right from Scimitar Hill is Hill 112 (left) and the W Hills (right) taken from Green Hill

The 1/1 Warwickshire Yeomanry were part of the 1st (South Midland) Brigade of the 2nd Mounted Division, not the 29th Division. Following the 29th Division's (86th and 87th brigades) failure to take Scimitar Hill and Hill 112, at 3.30pm the 2nd Mounted Division crossed the Salt Lake under artillery fire and reached the cover of Chocolate Hill, which was behind (west of) Green Hill with the division assembling there by 5pm. From there the 2nd (South Midland) Brigade moved forward to assist the 87th Brigade in the renewed attack on Scimitar Hill, but that attack failed as well. Meanwhile the 4th (London) Brigade followed by the 1st (South Midland) Brigade moved forward to Green Hill to assist the 86th Brigade's renewed assault on Hill 112. However, due to a confusion of orders they stopped at the rear of Green Hill as the brigade commanders didn't know what was required of them. However, small detachments who had lost touch with their units pushed ahead some joining the 2nd South Wales Borderers on the slopes of Scimitar Hill, others headed south-east towards Hetman Chair where they suffered heavy casualties from Ottoman fire from Hill 112 and the W Hills.

Regards
Chris

 

[DioramaArt]

Hi Marcus,

This is Scimitar Hill taken from Green Hill looking east (the latter was held by 29th Division prior to the attack on 21 August)

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and moving right from Scimitar Hill is Hill 112 (left) and the W Hills (right) from taken from Green Hill

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The 1/1 Warwickshire Yeomanry were part of the 1st (South Midland) Brigade of the 2nd Mounted Division, not the 29th Division. Following the 29th Division's (86th and 87th brigades) failure to take Scimitar Hill and Hill 112, at 3.30pm the 2nd Mounted Division crossed the Salt Lake under artillery fire and reached the cover of Chocolate Hill, which was behind (west of) Green Hill with the division assembling there by 5pm. From there the 2nd (South Midland) Brigade moved forward to assist the 87th Brigade in the renewed attack on Scimitar Hill, but that attack failed as well. Meanwhile the 4th (London) Brigade followed by the 1st (South Midland) Brigade moved forward to Green Hill to assist the 86th Brigade's renewed assault on Hill 112. However, due to a confusion of orders they stopped at the rear of Green Hill as the brigade commanders didn't know what was required of them. However, small detachments who had lost touch with their units pushed ahead some joining the 2nd South Wales Borderers on the slopes of Scimitar Hill, others headed south-east towards Hetman Chair where they suffered heavy casualties from Ottoman fire from Hill 112 and the W Hills.

Regards
Chris

Thanks for this Chris,

I had wanted to update the original post but couldn’t edit it, found I had incorrectly mentioned the wrong division (29th) should have been The 1/1 Warwickshire Yeomanry were part of the 1st (South Midland) Brigade of the 2nd Mounted Division, I had about half of what you mentioned as update.

I didn’t know that the Warwickshire’s had been split in confusion at Green Hill, how badly planned the attack had been it doesn’t surprise me. The information I had it only mentioned the Warwickshires attacking the on fire Scimitar Hill where my uncle apparently met his end, but I’ve never found and specific information of his final moments. Really interesting detail you have and would be interested in knowing your source to find out more. My uncle Robert Lidzy is buried in Green Hill cemetery, never seen any photo of him so most of what I used came from short accounts of others on the same day, not from the Warwickshire’s directly.

great photos as well, you’ve obviously studied this battle very well and appreciate the update.

 

[Jed]

I get two of multifigure sets with the theme "Gallipoli" in my GA.The one is from "The Fusilier/Steve Warrilow"(where are you ????) and the other from AC Models/Andy Cairns.
I´m very impressed of your work!
Tonight I will take a look after mines and the book "Gallipoli-Then and Now" form After the battle-line.

Tommyswar do a great figure from Gallipoli which I have and is awaiting painting,Steve Warrilow is doing well a good friend of mine,he fell on hard times but has now turned his hand to ceramics another subject at which he is excelling

 

[Chrisr]

Hi Marcus,

The sources are the British Official History Brig Gen C.F Aspinall-Oglander Military Operations, Gallipoli. Volume 2 (1932); Michael Hickey Gallipoli (1995); Peter Hart Gallipoli (2011) provides a number of first hand accounts of the advance across the Salt Lake; and Stephen Chambers Suvla: August Offensive (2011) in the Pen & Sword Battleground Gallipoli series of battlefield guides provides some good detail on the action of 21 August, and the book is still available from Pen & Sword. https://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/Suvla-Paperback/p/3200

I have studied the battles at Suvla and walked the ground a couple of times, however, my main focus is the Anzac sector having written a couple of books and contributed chapters to others on the subject. The photos were taken in 2015 on my last visit to the peninsula.

Cheers
Chris

 

[Nap]

Hi Marcus

There is a time limit on members editing but let me know whst you want put in or taken out by PM and I will do it for you

Excellent details and pictures from Chris

Great diorama as well ...still can't get used to the green stuff like you !

Happy modelling

Stay safe

Nap