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AMROM-G10- Punic wars
Metal, 75mm

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Is it just me, or the chainmail is not the best, especially at this scale? Maybe if I could see a larger picture without the paint...
 
Is it just me, or the chainmail is not the best, especially at this scale? Maybe if I could see a larger picture without the paint...

Great pose to this one and nice kit overall - I have to agree though on a re-look,that the c/mail is rather too faded.
 
Very nice looking figure! Only knowing very little about Roman armor and weapons, I can only state what I do know vs. what I don't know.

Starting with the figure as a whole, everything seems to be correct with only a few things, of which I'm not sure of. Mainly, the Javelin (or Pilum). Is this correct for this time period? I'm not sure and hopefully someone else will come along and educate me. I know there were 3 "main" types. I only know of what 2 look like (see the picture below). The third type had a spike head. Could this be it? I just don't know. The shield looks beautiful and while it may not fit our view of "popular" Roman shields, keep in mind they were painted differently, especially during this early period. The chain mail, while it does seems to be lacking the detail that we have grown used to, I personally don't find it too off the mark. It's also nice to see this Roman wearing the correct colored tunic as this color was the norm vs. the red that Hollywood has made us believe to be correct.

Without a doubt, I will buy this figure and hopefully someone who is more knowledgeable on things Roman will come along and set me straight if I am incorrect on anything.

Jim Patrick
 

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...Mainly, the Javelin (or Pilum). Is this correct for this time period? ...

He is holding a thrusting spear. This makes him one of the older veterans who formed the third line and the tactical reserve. The Romans called them triarii or pilani. So, yes, it's completely correct.

It's also nice to see this Roman wearing the correct colored tunic as this color was the norm vs. the red that Hollywood has made us believe to be correct.

Red and white tunics are both correct. There's good evidence for both of these colours. Red tunics are not a "Hollywood" invention (in fact, if you look at the old big sword and sandal epics many of the Roman soldiers wear white tunics!).
 
Thanks Harry. I thought the red tunics, while they were worn, were not worn normally by the rank and file due to the cost and dyes that were needed at the time to produce red tunics. It was my understanding the red tunics were normally worn by officers and senior centurions (NCO's). Is this correct or incorrect?

Jim Patrick
 
Thanks Harry. I thought the red tunics, while they were worn, were not worn normally by the rank and file due to the cost and dyes that were needed at the time to produce red tunics. It was my understanding the red tunics were normally worn by officers and senior centurions (NCO's). Is this correct or incorrect?

Jim Patrick

That's an old theory that really isn't supportable any more on the basis of the evidence. There's been a lot of research done on this in the last few years. Unfortunately a few academics haven't caught up yet and you still see this old "red for centurions, white for legionaries" rule referenced; the recent Osprey books on the Roman Legionary are a case in point.

This forum isn't really the place to go into it in great detail, but to summarise the large corpus of evidence that exists: "white" (most likely un-dyed wool), dyed red and un-dyed red-brown wool (called "poor man's purple" by one of the Roman authors) were all commonly worn. Some Roman literary sources say that red was regarded as especially suitable for battledress. There's plenty of other evidence that the Romans certainly regarded red as a "warlike" colour. There are also a few examples of blue and green tunics on soldiers. The only common colour not attested for Roman soldiers' tunics is bright yellow. Sure enough we read of characters who liked to wear yellow being derided as effeminate by Roman writers, and one even says it wasn't popular for men's clothes since it was the colour that Roman brides wore.

Officers weren't distinguished from other ranks based on the colour of their clothes (taking into account more expensive cloth and dyes probably worn by officers. Pure bleached white is mentioned once being worn by officers on a formal parade.). Red wasn't an expensive dye. The Romans used madder or a common plant called "bedstraw" to produce the dye. They could get anything from a good blood red to a pale greyish-pink out of it.
 
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