garyhiggins
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Thanks Mark
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WIP Bust (18th century French civilian)
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Thank you for your comments, Gary & Mark. The proportion calculator is indeed a very usefull tool.
I always leave the ears for last - I usually wait to have the jawline set and then do them - and sometimes when I do a quick sketch I don't sculpt ears at all. I think taking photos of the thing is the equivalent to looking at it in a mirror. It is much easier to spot mistakes that you don't necessarily see when you're sculpting it.
There's still work to be done so I'm off to do it!
All the best,
Elia
p.s. should I change the name of the thread to "David Cameron in a 18th century costume" now?
I always leave the ears for last - I usually wait to have the jawline set and then do them - and sometimes when I do a quick sketch I don't sculpt ears at all. I think taking photos of the thing is the equivalent to looking at it in a mirror. It is much easier to spot mistakes that you don't necessarily see when you're sculpting it.
There's still work to be done so I'm off to do it!
All the best,
Elia
p.s. should I change the name of the thread to "David Cameron in a 18th century costume" now?
Tubby-Nuts2
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p.s. should I change the name of the thread to "David Cameron in a 18th century costume" now?
, Elia, that purely depends on how familiar you wish to become with 'Madame Guillotine'. .. Perhaps that's not such a good idea!
Mark
, Elia, that purely depends on how familiar you wish to become with 'Madame Guillotine'. .. Perhaps that's not such a good idea! Mark
Tubby-Nuts2
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Look on the bright side! it could have been far worse.
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I will follow this production through !
Regards,
Mark
. I will follow this production through !
Regards,
Mark
garyhiggins
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AAAARRRGhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! 
Rich Sculpts
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Hi Elia, Gary is spot on about the adding the ears, it will help you get the proportions correct. Also consider initially sculpting the flat planes of the face, this helps to get a feeling for the shape before you refine it with curves. This image may help.
-Rich
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Hello all,
the bust is progressing - despite the unfortunate resemblanceeek! I've changed the features a little, trimmed the forehead and made the left & right sides more or less even. Now I have to do the jaw and the ears. So far it's progressing well I think and I'm grateful for the feedback from all of you: it's a better sculpture for it .
Re: sculpting ears to help with proportions of the face, it's never worked for me. I start with positioning the eyes in the middle of the face and then calculating the rest of the features from there. I don't calculate exactly the different elements (nose is x times the eyes, width of face is x times the eyes etc.), I just keep in mind the general proportions and then go with what looks right, correcting things as I go along. I guess each of us has his/her own method.
All the best,
Elia
the bust is progressing - despite the unfortunate resemblance
eek! I've changed the features a little, trimmed the forehead and made the left & right sides more or less even. Now I have to do the jaw and the ears. So far it's progressing well I think and I'm grateful for the feedback from all of you: it's a better sculpture for it .Re: sculpting ears to help with proportions of the face, it's never worked for me. I start with positioning the eyes in the middle of the face and then calculating the rest of the features from there. I don't calculate exactly the different elements (nose is x times the eyes, width of face is x times the eyes etc.), I just keep in mind the general proportions and then go with what looks right, correcting things as I go along. I guess each of us has his/her own method.
All the best,
Elia
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garyhiggins
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One thing that helps, is to try and sculpt the faces of people around you, even in miniature reality gives you more to work with than theory.
Best wishes, Gary.
PS looking at the original illustration, I'd be aiming more for a Feminine face?
Best wishes, Gary
.PS looking at the original illustration, I'd be aiming more for a Feminine face?
Very true, Gary. Faces of people around you provide an unlimited source of reference! It's very challenging to try and sculpt a different face each time and not follow one's familiar patterns.
Yes, the face in the illustration is more feminine but I decided early on to sculpt a male face. We'll see if it was the right choice once the whole thing is done.
All the best,
Elia
Yes, the face in the illustration is more feminine but I decided early on to sculpt a male face. We'll see if it was the right choice once the whole thing is done.
All the best,
Elia
Good morning all,
sculpting of the bust is progressing: I added the ears and some hair (which will be covered by the wig), bulked him up a little as per Gaudins's suggestion (thanks!) and started work on the collar. I'm having great fun with this project and learning a lot from it especially how to do clothing wrinkles.
All the best,
Elia
sculpting of the bust is progressing: I added the ears and some hair (which will be covered by the wig), bulked him up a little as per Gaudins's suggestion (thanks!) and started work on the collar. I'm having great fun with this project and learning a lot from it especially how to do clothing wrinkles.
All the best,
Elia
garyhiggins
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Coming on nicely Elia, well done Glad you're enjoying it.
Best wishes, Gary.
Glad you're enjoying it.Best wishes, Gary.
Tubby-Nuts2
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Hmm! .. It may well be just me,. but I am feeling the ears are set a little low, more so the right hand side! in comparison to the left! Its just a visual that I cant shake!
However this whole sculpt is coming along nicely!
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Regards,
Mark
Its just a visual that I cant shake! However this whole sculpt is coming along nicely!
.Regards,
Mark
Hello Mark, I checked the ears again after reading your comment & I corrected the right ear (the lobe was indeed a bit lower than the left). As for the positioning, perhaps it's the photo that is misleading - they seem ok to me!
All the best
Elia
All the best
Elia
Hello everyone,
I've started laying in the coat and finished the hair (minus the bow). Next I'll be sculpting the front of the coat, the shirt, the rest of the collar and the hat. Clothing wrinkles will be added last.
All the best,
Elia
I've started laying in the coat and finished the hair (minus the bow). Next I'll be sculpting the front of the coat, the shirt, the rest of the collar and the hat. Clothing wrinkles will be added last.
All the best,
Elia
Tubby-Nuts2
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Great work Elia, this is truly taking shape and form. The character is coming through! ..
Regards,
Mark
Regards,
Mark
Hello all,
work on the bust is progressing: I've added his coat, shirt and cravat and some clothing wrinkles. Also, I've turned his head slightly to the left in order to make the pose a little more natural. There's still the rest of the clothing wrinkles, the buttons and his hat to do and he'll be done.
All the best,
Elia
work on the bust is progressing: I've added his coat, shirt and cravat and some clothing wrinkles. Also, I've turned his head slightly to the left in order to make the pose a little more natural. There's still the rest of the clothing wrinkles, the buttons and his hat to do and he'll be done.
All the best,
Elia
Tubby-Nuts2
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Very nice work Elia, Your character is taking form very nicely indeed. Are you going for the hat as well ?
Regards,
Mark
Regards,
Mark
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