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I think a fair assumption for selling or buying on pf would be to become a paid member and disclose your location and be verified, i am fairly new to pf and i have bought and sold figures and i would not mind paying sellers fees to pf why not, you would pay fees if selling on Ebay, but i don,t use pf solely for that reason i enjoy the forum for picking ideas to better myself when painting figurines, after all the hobby can get quiet expensive and you want to produce the best you can and getting any help and ideas from pf is ideal for me
Thanks Paul
 
A question that springs to mind.....if some form of restriction were to be introduced......minimum of 100 posts/PF supporter/3-6 months membership....
How would this then affect those of us who have been members for several years....have already sold or purchased pieces to/from others....especially if the "supporter" status became a requirement.....
It would appear somewhat discriminatory....would it not...if it was limited to 'new' members......
 
Very good point as about 99.9 percent have sold on here including myself ,but I see where Del is coming from re this post , maybe we should look upon it as an upgrade :eek:
 
IMHO, I don't think the "market" is problematic as it is now.
I've been buying figures here and never had any major problems with sellers.
Only in one case when the seller for no apparent reason sold the figure to someone else when I was first to ask for it.
If there where major problems, members would have reported them and we haven't seen such reports of bad sellers or buyers for a long time.

Also, there's no need to commercialize this forum with fees.
If the majority thinks the "market" is problematic here as it is now, it would be better to separate and move it elsewhere than to implement fees here.
The "market" is a nice addition but the forum remains mainly a virtual room where people from all over the world gather and talk about common interests.
In the end, the percentage of the "market" posts compared to the rest of the forum content is relatively small.

Many of us know each other but there are also many members who like to stay anonymous for personal or security reasons as others who don't want to actively participate and only passively read.
All of them should be acceptable as long as they abide to the forum rules.
New strict rules about presenting publicly a full set of personal details, would probably send many members away.

Having said the above, I'd agree to the minimum posts and/or minimum membership time limits to avoid the "comets" who only take advantage of the "market" and don't give a sh!t about the rest of the forum.
 
Make it simple..make it....Active Member.."Plus"........Been a member here for 5 years and have bought many times with NO problem.I don't have all the accolades that some members have;I just enjoy painting miniatures for my own self satisfaction, no one else;just mine.These guys that go boohoo'n outa here and leave because they don't get enough recognition or likes or whatever; Don't take it so serious.No ones guaranteed tomorrow;and todays not over.:shy:.....
Regards to all,
Wayne
 
I think the forum is fine as it is. We don't need a 100 posts trusted member status or fees for trading - that just kills the spirit of it all and puts people off. You can easily check to see how long a member has been active and how many posts they've made, if they have said where they're from etc. If you've got a feeling somethings not quite right because you haven't heard of the buyer / seller before then just don't trade with them - simple. If you want to take the risk (or trust someone) then we should be free to.
Cheers
Mat
 
Selling here can be strange, I rarely do it. I once thought I'd part with a nice set of Kirin Brit Paras in the Falklands (kinda rare) for a reasonable price and the buyer demanded 70 more pics and intimated it was not genuine. LOL. I ended up telling him to get lost. It is just a forum, it is what it is.
 
I just discovered this thread on a topic that has been on my mind too lately.

The important thing however are the familiar faces: hello Ron!!!!! Greetings to Glasgow from a rainy Utrecht:D

Seriously: I've seen the same thing. I have been here since 2009 I think and became more active after 'lurking in the dark' for several years. Recently I also sold some stuff I wanted to part with. And I bought stuff from others, figures long out of production I'd been hunting for quite some time (forever indebted to Ron).

For me the forum offers a reliable environment to do that. For example: I received a pm from a member interested in buying a figure. No idea who he was. So the first thing I do is approach other members or one of the mod's to make an inquiry.

Until now I only have been f.cked by a member once. And that was my own fault. He didn't know however that I am a polyglot and know my way around shows in Europe. You should have seen his face when I showed up at his showtable with the crap figure he sold me (this is no joke).

I'd like to point out however that I feel free to move about the forum because I also like to participate in several ways: doing reviews (there will be a new one soon), presenting a finished figure or taking part in a 'melee' over sensitive subjects :troll::angelic:

I would never ever sign up somewhere and start to drain the place of its content nor use it as an easy means to aquire a collection cheaply. For my stash I payed the full price at shows, Historex Agents and Art Girona. No 40 - 50% discounts to be had there.

And then a new member comes along inquiring several times a month in sentences that seem to come from an answering machine containing not more then 6 words ( 9,5 at most) if someone has this or that figure.

Then every once in a while producers show up presenting their products. Ok they are often one man businesses stuggling to stay afloat. But still If you allow advertising at least demand a small fee.

Doesn't make me feel good , does it? Makes me think of these:


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But what can be done about it? Restricting selling and buying to PF supporters as is mentioned above? Having been a member for at least 3 years and an active one? Might indeed be a good idea to build in some (safety)barriers. For I have to say it's very easy to slip into this place with all its advantages.

Having said that: I think I am going to take a look at my account settings. I might still be listed as 'female' from the United States.
 
PF supporter might even help you if you step out of line a bit " who knows" :)
Some little things help in life like precise time keeping at work ; kept me in a job many a time " cant sack him he is to reliable just put up with his shit":D

That was during you stint with Fiat no doubt:D

Just still haven't figured out how you got those medals unless you bought them for a pinch at a fleamarket in Palermo, official certificates from The Holy Father and Berlusconi included of course.
 
Good Afternoon Gentlemen,
Well what a debate....... should we, shouldn't we, can we, cant we . Honestly you get shady sods everywhere , I've been a member for a long time , I visit every day ( its like a fix ) I don't log on but I cruise the forum on occasion even post a photo or two if they come out ok .But this thread got me thinking maybe ............ i'm new to a hobby brought a few figures might not be my favourite period but it is available ( we all have those figure in our gray armys) saw better ones painted here and of a period I like, want to sell off old ones or acquire a different one . If you feel that something is not right don't do the deal we are a small community as it is, If someone is pulling shady deals they will be found out soon enough and exposed . As I live in Australia my access to figures is limited so I rely on online purchases it is a buyer beware thing and I think you have to use discretion if not sure ask a couple of questions if not happy hit the delete button and walk away.............
Just my two cents worth some will agree..... some won't..... So Be it !
Now I'm off to glue the shield to a Viking that on brought here on PF from a guy that I've never meet from half way around the world :LOL: :LOL::LOL:
Cheers
Chris W
 
Perhaps given that I started this thread I thought I'd better explain that I don't feel it necessary to become a Supporter to buy and sell.
I do however see the Marketplace as a benefit to all members where figures can be traded at often significant savings and as such it strikes me as not unreasonable to earn that benefit by participation. Perhaps not by as many as 100 posts but say a minimum of 20 and a membership of 3 months.
In addition the country of residence should be included.
I don't think that this would compromise privacy or security, but it would mean that potential buyers and sellers could identify approximate postage costs before wasting time to discover that buying a second hand bargain from half way round the world could end up way more expensive than a new version from a trader in your own country
I certainly would exempt traders from any cost associated with posting releases, after all they are effectively core to the lifeblood of the hobby. It should also be noted that many traders are active participants Ian (ellie) and Ulrich to name but two.
Cheers
Derek
 
Good Afternoon Gentlemen,
Well what a debate....... should we, shouldn't we, can we, cant we . Honestly you get shady sods everywhere , I've been a member for a long time , I visit every day ( its like a fix ) I don't log on but I cruise the forum on occasion even post a photo or two if they come out ok .But this thread got me thinking maybe ............ i'm new to a hobby brought a few figures might not be my favourite period but it is available ( we all have those figure in our gray armys) saw better ones painted here and of a period I like, want to sell off old ones or acquire a different one . If you feel that something is not right don't do the deal we are a small community as it is, If someone is pulling shady deals they will be found out soon enough and exposed . As I live in Australia my access to figures is limited so I rely on online purchases it is a buyer beware thing and I think you have to use discretion if not sure ask a couple of questions if not happy hit the delete button and walk away.............
Just my two cents worth some will agree..... some won't..... So Be it !
Now I'm off to glue the shield to a Viking that on brought here on PF from a guy that I've never meet from half way around the world :LOL: :LOL::LOL:
Cheers
Chris W

One of the advantages of being a member(y)
 
Perhaps given that I started this thread I thought I'd better explain that I don't feel it necessary to become a Supporter to buy and sell.
I do however see the Marketplace as a benefit to all members where figures can be traded at often significant savings and as such it strikes me as not unreasonable to earn that benefit by participation, perhaps not by as many as 100 posts but say a minimum of 20 and a membership of 3 months.
In addition the country of residence should be included.
I don't think that this would compromise privacy or security, but it would mean that potential buyers and sellers could identify approximate postage costs before wasting time to discover that buying a second hand bargain from half way round the world could end up way more expensive than a new version from a trader in your own country
I certainly would exempt traders from any cost associated with posting releases, after all they are effectively core to the lifeblood of the hobby. It should also be noted that many traders are active participants Ian (ellie) and Ulrich to name but two.
Cheers
Derek

'many traders' yes there's nothing wrong with the combination of trader/member in my opinion. We know them from here and from shows and we know they are thrustworthy.

For me it's just the new members that pop up from time to time that only seem to be interested in buying stuff.
 
My concern was that most transactions are done via, 'PayPal', which generally favours the buyer over the seller, if it comes to a dispute. We know PayPal are nightmare to contact to get things resolved.

As Del, indicated there is a lot of trust associated with selling/buying between members on this forum. So naturally my suspicious mind kicks in when selling to someone with no track record, and limited or non-existent profile. This is why I made the comment that I did. As I too noticed and increase in new members solely buying.

However, the same goes for buying to a similar extent. I would much rather buy from someone whom I know! and is reliable and honest about the individual kit.

Mark.

You certainly have a point there. When I offered some figures for sale no so long ago I had that Paypal policy in the back of my mind. One of my conditions is always that the buyer has accept that I will only ship a package registered-trackable-signed for. Apart from PF members whom I can trust.
 
I think the forum is fine as it is. We don't need a 100 posts trusted member status or fees for trading - that just kills the spirit of it all and puts people off. You can easily check to see how long a member has been active and how many posts they've made, if they have said where they're from etc. If you've got a feeling somethings not quite right because you haven't heard of the buyer / seller before then just don't trade with them - simple. If you want to take the risk (or trust someone) then we should be free to.
Cheers
Mat


This is a fair point. Risk assessment comes down to the individual buyer or seller, to make that judgement.

Personally. I prefer to sell to known and trusted individuals who really want the kit. Rather than to some obscure, 'For-Profit only' supposed member, that looks for free postage, and tries to haggle the price down. Only to see 12-18mth later the same kits 'Marked-up', and with full postage costs.

No thanks, this avenue is not for me.;)

Mr Morality.:D

Mark.
 
This is a fair point. Risk assessment comes down to the individual buyer or seller, to make that judgement.

Personally. I prefer to sell to known and trusted individuals who really want the kit. Rather than to some obscure, 'For-Profit only' supposed member, that looks for free postage, and tries to haggle the price down. Only to see 12-18mth later the same kits 'Marked-up', and with full postage costs.

No thanks, this avenue is not for me.;)

Mr Morality.:D

Mark.

I've had many requests for 'free postage' and 'can you give me a good price' . Actually I hate that. I always pay what is asked. Maybe cause by a difference in culture. But there is not much that can be done about it is there?
 
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