WIP Critique Captain Hussar 75mm

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Aveleira

Aveleira

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Hi,

I've been waiting for painting this kit a long time and now I got it!
If you hear someone saying that it's a difficult one to paint, believe it,
because it is... The great sculpt brings more things to paint and details
to be managed... but I recommend it strongly, it's great great fun!!!!

So, this is the second horse that I paint. After I painted a brown one in the
past I thought that maybe this time I would raise the stake and try something
that I hear people saying that is more difficult. I'm going for a Dapple Grey horse.
Well, it's a hard job indeed... I don't have an airbrush and I don't use oils... I quickly
found out that this would be major task for me... So after almost a couple of weeks
trying this and that I ended up with the result you will see next.
Right now I'm yet to find a nice color to the crest and tail, which I don't know which,
maybe I go with a soft beige, and the lower part of the legs need a little more work, maybe highlights,
and of course the hoofs. Then I will go to the straps, saddle, etc...

I've also painted the face of the Hussar. I think I'm going for the 5th Regiment uniform: light blue and white.

After so many words the pics:

hussar.jpghussar1.jpghussar2.jpghussar3.jpghussar4.jpghussar5.jpghussar6.jpghussar7.jpghussar8.jpg


Please feel free to comment and saying what I need to improve.
Oh, and a suggestion about the horse hair color would be nice.

Regards
Pedro
 
This is a very good start.
I did it 3 years ago, with much satisfaction at that time. Today I must say that I do not like it so much; the horse is attractive but too much toylike.
I have a second copy in my grey army; I might though give it a chance once again...
 
Very very nice Pedro
I wish my first dapple turned out half as good as this one, especially since you did it all in acrylics as well. Maybe you could share some tips... I have greys on the bench and they terrify me :nailbiting:
Heres a couple of examples of manes and tails ranging from white to black
1258532-bigthumbnail.jpg1318062-bigthumbnail.jpg5755159680_ce880f153d_z.jpgDappled grey Horse2.JPGdapple-grey.jpgDSC_3662_resize.jpghor68268-2.jpgmangalarga-marchador.jpgticaface.jpg
 
Paul20100 said:
This is a very good start.
I did it 3 years ago, with much satisfaction at that time. Today I must say that I do not like it so much; the horse is attractive but too much toylike.
I have a second copy in my grey army; I might though give it a chance once again...
Click to expand...

Hi Paul,

I've seen yours, and the SBS in the Figurinitaly Forum. I like it very much!
Your horse painting is very nice and unusual. The Hussar is beautifully painted I must say.
I like your colors of the leopard skin, it will be my inspiration.
I think I don't understand what you mean about the horse... You mean that is too perfect to be
a real horse?

Regards
Pedro
 
Ola Pedro

Fantastico começo!!
Estou curioso para ver o final!
Podes pintar as crinas e a cauda de um tom amarelado, mas tambem depende da cor que vais utilizar no uniforme do cavaleiro!

Abraço

Vitas
 
ChaosCossack said:
Very very nice Pedro
I wish my first dapple turned out half as good as this one, especially since you did it all in acrylics as well. Maybe you could share some tips... I have greys on the bench and they terrify me :nailbiting: quote]

Thank You Colin, you're too kind.
Yes, I've spent much time around google... Maybe I?ll go with that light
beige tone, ending in light grey... that was my first idea.

Regarding the painting itself, I followed Cartacci style and a Julio Cabos SBS on the Andrea 90mm Chasseur, I found it on the net:

http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/andrea-chasseaur/3194/

About Cartacci I found 2 days ago this painting horse class on AMT Torrent show. Of course they talk in Spanish and Italian. For me is not
a problem, since I'm Portuguese I understand them well enough. But is worth taking a look:

http://www.youtube.com/results?sear....5j4.9.0...0.0...1ac.1.11.youtube.4Si0thRKaBw

About my painting of the horse, I used some unorthodox methods trying to reproduce what I've seen in real horses and these SBS.
Started with a light grey mix, then painted highlights. Now comes the crazy part, these dappled horses have much tiny spots of dark grey so I grabbed a toothbrush
dunk it in dark grey, and with a brush (or anything else) I made a movement from front to back on the toothbrush and it sprays lots of tiny spots (after dumped the excess paint),
so I did it all over the horse. I also washed the horse with mixes of some tones of andrea white set in order to filter the spots and subtle down the painting transitions and get a more
dirty white/grey look. Then with old brush and a wash of white I started dapple around the horse softly. Then Shadows, and then the light light grey, almost white round dapples.
I use many washes in my painting, in almost every tone I do in a figure with different objectives: tone down the painting, tone up the painting, give and impression of dirty but very
subtle, unite the painting I've done in order to get an even look after highlights and shadows.... you name it.
Of course many of these things you can't really see in photos, only in reality and with a closer look (like the spots).

Hope it was helpful.

Regards
Pedro
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Vitalino said:
Ola Pedro

Fantastico começo!!
Estou curioso para ver o final!
Podes pintar as crinas e a cauda de um tom amarelado, mas tambem depende da cor que vais utilizar no uniforme do cavaleiro!

Abraço

Vitas
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Obrigado Vitalino!!
Pois, eu penso que será nesses tons que vou pintar...

Abraço
Pedro
 
Good info Pedro
I have the Cartacci book, I tried that method to paint the grey, I just wasn't happy with the job I did. I just need to practice a few times to get it right before I start on a project horse

I will be following this project closely

Colin
 
ChaosCossack said:
Good info Pedro
I have the Cartacci book, I tried that method to paint the grey, I just wasn't happy with the job I did. I just need to practice a few times to get it right before I start on a project horse

I will be following this project closely

Colin
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I understand. I don't have Cartacci's book, I tried to replicate what I saw in this painted horses. Before start I was to ask someone if could scan me the
book part about painting horses, but I was afraid it was considered "copying" (don't know the exact english word for it).
You know what? Maybe you could get an historex horse just for practice, then you can strip it down and try another and colors, since they are cheap.

Regards
Pedro
 
Aveleira said:
Hi Paul,

I've seen yours, and the SBS in the Figurinitaly Forum. I like it very much!
Your horse painting is very nice and unusual. The Hussar is beautifully painted I must say.
I like your colors of the leopard skin, it will be my inspiration.
I think I don't understand what you mean about the horse... You mean that is too perfect to be
a real horse?

Regards
Pedro
Click to expand...

I mean, the horse looks like a carousel one. Kind of too perfect and artificial (mane, tail, neck...) But very nice overall.
You can follow me for the tones of the leopard skin, but please do not imitate the spots. They are not good.
Better follow my post about Colonel Briche of the 10th regiment (on PF).
 
Paul20100 said:
I mean, the horse looks like a carousel one. Kind of too perfect and artificial (mane, tail, neck...) But very nice overall.
You can follow me for the tones of the leopard skin, but please do not imitate the spots. They are not good.
Better follow my post about Colonel Briche of the 10th regiment (on PF).
Click to expand...

Yes, I know what you mean about the horse. Is good, but maybe too overdone.
I may have to agree with you. Maurizio Bruno is a great sculptor, but I like more
the Andrea Jula horses.
I find your tones of the Leopard skin very rich, but I already have several real photos of
leopards to follow also. I'll take a look at the Colonel ones ;)

Regards
Pedro
 
Hi Pedro,I love grey horses and yours is looking superb,I can't want to see the completed saddlecloth,will it be leapord skin pattern?,the sapling is very well done as well.
The hussar face looks super as well,like the eyes very much,I know this will turn out well and I'm looking forward to following the painting stages. :)

Brian
 
Wonderfull paintjob on the horse Pedro. One of my favorite figures of all time. I must say you are vary talented. You are developing your skills with lightning speed.
 
Lovely job on the horse. The dappling turned out very nice. The hussar's face looks great too. I'm looking forward to seeing your progress on this one.
 
smudger1960 said:
Hi Pedro,I love grey horses and yours is looking superb,I can't want to see the completed saddlecloth,will it be leapord skin pattern?,the sapling is very well done as well.
The hussar face looks super as well,like the eyes very much,I know this will turn out well and I'm looking forward to following the painting stages. :)

Brian
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Hi Brian,

Thank you! Glad you liked it ;) The saddlecloth it will be leopard skin.
Hope to show more progress soon.

Regards
Pedro
 

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