Some fine advice ref the effects
Bring on the blood effects
Nap
Bring on the blood effects
Nap
Completed CGS 120mm Cuirassier with 69th Regiment Color
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Spent the last week or so painting the King's Colour.
A few point about the Colour (please skip this rambling if not interested)
and I want to preface it by saying that it is an amazing piece of sculpture and some small inaccuracies don't bother me at all, but I just couldn't help but be a little bit of a nerd.
It's more about me having read books about the Battle of Quatre Bras and the uniforms and British Colours and Standards, and wanting to show off. But here they are:
For a picture of the actual flag captured in Quatre Bras please see here:
Standard of 69th Foot at Quatre Bras
(End of my rambling)
Pic1: Base color with Acrylic, without the Cartouche or the wreath
Pic2: Added the Crest/Cartouche and the wreath. Still all in acrylic.
Some might notice I used gold color for the regimental number in the Cartouche instead of the black color on the actual flag that day.
Most sources for other king's colour have the texts in gold, and I think it looks better, so I went with that. Besides the 1768 regulation didn't specify anything about the color of the text.
I think it is possible that the gold color degraded over time, but that's just something I tell myself to justify using a better looking color. I have no information on that whatsoever.
Pic3: Added light and shadow with oil paint. If you compare this picture with the 1st one you can see that the highlighting and shading did bring out some contrast.
Although if you view it in a bright environment (like in pic2, which was directly under my brightest lamp) you kind of don't need this because the flag is very well sculpted.
A few point about the Colour (please skip this rambling if not interested)
and I want to preface it by saying that it is an amazing piece of sculpture and some small inaccuracies don't bother me at all, but I just couldn't help but be a little bit of a nerd.
It's more about me having read books about the Battle of Quatre Bras and the uniforms and British Colours and Standards, and wanting to show off. But here they are:
- the white stripes have uniform width on the sculpture but actual flag has differing width.
- The wreath only has Tudor roses, but the actual flag at this point has Shamrock as a symbol of Ireland and Thistle as a symbol of Scotland
- The text in the Cartouche should be LXIX - REGt (the "t" is written in superscript), and the t is missing on both sides.
For a picture of the actual flag captured in Quatre Bras please see here:
Standard of 69th Foot at Quatre Bras
(End of my rambling)
Pic1: Base color with Acrylic, without the Cartouche or the wreath
Pic2: Added the Crest/Cartouche and the wreath. Still all in acrylic.
Some might notice I used gold color for the regimental number in the Cartouche instead of the black color on the actual flag that day.
Most sources for other king's colour have the texts in gold, and I think it looks better, so I went with that. Besides the 1768 regulation didn't specify anything about the color of the text.
I think it is possible that the gold color degraded over time, but that's just something I tell myself to justify using a better looking color. I have no information on that whatsoever.
Pic3: Added light and shadow with oil paint. If you compare this picture with the 1st one you can see that the highlighting and shading did bring out some contrast.
Although if you view it in a bright environment (like in pic2, which was directly under my brightest lamp) you kind of don't need this because the flag is very well sculpted.
BTW, the reason I’ve not bring on the blood yet:
I’ve been murdering this Cuirassier trumpeter (which was one of my practice figure) trying to practice the method suggested by Simon and Nigel.
It’s a really good method, I’m just very afraid.
And don’t worry, I’ll strip this trumpeter and give him a proper paint someday…
Briggsy
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Vincent the colour looks brilliant, one thing about the British Army though, just because it says to do it this way in regulations has no bearing on what was done in actuality. Kings/Queens Regulations and Clothing Regulations were more often than not viewed as amusing novels.
The blood splatter on your test piece is over done, it isn't a very precise method and you do need practice so I fully understand your trepidation. Pardon the pun but it's looking pretty bloody good.
Cheers Simon
The blood splatter on your test piece is over done, it isn't a very precise method and you do need practice so I fully understand your trepidation. Pardon the pun but it's looking pretty bloody good.
Cheers Simon
Hi Vincent
Liking the ramblings with good observations, as you say Carl's done a good sculpt , personally I think I might increase the white lines in the appropriate position as in the colour reference
The painting on the colour is looking good
Agree with Simons comment ref the blood effects , imo " less is more "
Looking forward to seeing more
Happy benchtime
Nap
Liking the ramblings with good observations, as you say Carl's done a good sculpt , personally I think I might increase the white lines in the appropriate position as in the colour reference
The painting on the colour is looking good
Agree with Simons comment ref the blood effects , imo " less is more "
Looking forward to seeing more
Happy benchtime
Nap
NigelR
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I am a complete rivet counter and also an ex-Boy Scout, so basic errors like not getting the differing widths in the diagonals correct annoys the heck out of me! But it is what it is and it's looking good.
I have to agree with Simon and Nap, that blood effect is way overdone. Less is indeed more. You also need to be careful where you place it. Think about the combat he would be involved in, which was against infantry and place the effect accordingly. Also it would be best to do it in layers of different colours, with a darker colour underneath with a few spots of a lighter colour on top, as the blood would soak into the cloth quite quickly.
Steve Brodie
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coming along very nicely
Rocco82
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Great work so far on this mate. Excellent for your first proper go figure and great choice. Lovely big sculpt. In at the deep end which will serve you well.
Nigel suggested I give you shout about the blood effects I recently did....
https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/the-barbarian-pegaso-75mm.615286/page-2#post-1379095
Pretty much the same technique as Simon suggested I think.
Really simple but great effects.
I used a dedicated blood effect paint. The one from Green stuff world.
And masking putty stuff. Layer on a few bits to cover all the parts of the fig I don't want hit and leave just a little opening where I wanted the blood.
Get a blob of paint on an old brush. With my left hand I hold a toothpick next to the area and pull the brush head down over the toothpick. And it flicks little bits just nicely.
I have a damp brush at the side of I need to quickly remove any. But with careful masking you can avoid those.
Easy does it.
You don't need the masking putty. I'd probably use some toilet tissue if I didn't have the putty lol.
I think Sergey Popovichenko
Has a video showing it on YT. Or it's on his Patreon. I can't recall. And I think he flicks it with his finger.
The airbrush can be a bit unpredictable as you've seen. Just remember turn the psi down lol.
It's coming together nicely though!
Nigel suggested I give you shout about the blood effects I recently did....
https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/the-barbarian-pegaso-75mm.615286/page-2#post-1379095
Pretty much the same technique as Simon suggested I think.
Really simple but great effects.
I used a dedicated blood effect paint. The one from Green stuff world.
And masking putty stuff. Layer on a few bits to cover all the parts of the fig I don't want hit and leave just a little opening where I wanted the blood.
Get a blob of paint on an old brush. With my left hand I hold a toothpick next to the area and pull the brush head down over the toothpick. And it flicks little bits just nicely.
I have a damp brush at the side of I need to quickly remove any. But with careful masking you can avoid those.
Easy does it.
You don't need the masking putty. I'd probably use some toilet tissue if I didn't have the putty lol.
I think Sergey Popovichenko
Has a video showing it on YT. Or it's on his Patreon. I can't recall. And I think he flicks it with his finger.
The airbrush can be a bit unpredictable as you've seen. Just remember turn the psi down lol.
It's coming together nicely though!
Hi Everyone!
I'm finally back after 6 months hiatus. I have basically finished the entire figure, and would like to show you some pictures:
The blood effect on the sword, thanks Simon for the suggestion. It is done with UV cured resin, and the longer streaks are anchored with a fishing line.
For the shorter streaks I use a toothpick to dip in some resin and apply to the sword and try to stretch them out while flashing UV light slightly to half-cure it, and then repeat until it looks good.
For the longer ones I simply drip resin on the fishing lines, they are viscous so they hold in place and in shape for a second and I quickly cure it with a UV torch before it drips down.
Full figure right side. Thanks Simon and Rocco for their suggestion for ways to do the blood splatter effect on the pants.
It's probably still a little bit overdone since the initial few applications doesn't look very good so I kept trying...
On the left side. There are also splatter on the left sleeve (is that the right word?) of the pants, it actually looks perfect on the first attempt... but alas it's covered up by the flag.
Front
Rightside from a lower angle to see his face which I spent 2 weeks painting
BONUS PIC:
You are private Clarke of the 69th Regt. and this is the last thing you saw before being struck unconscious after losing your regiment's king's color to trooper Henry of the 8th Cuirassier.
I'm finally back after 6 months hiatus. I have basically finished the entire figure, and would like to show you some pictures:
The blood effect on the sword, thanks Simon for the suggestion. It is done with UV cured resin, and the longer streaks are anchored with a fishing line.
For the shorter streaks I use a toothpick to dip in some resin and apply to the sword and try to stretch them out while flashing UV light slightly to half-cure it, and then repeat until it looks good.
For the longer ones I simply drip resin on the fishing lines, they are viscous so they hold in place and in shape for a second and I quickly cure it with a UV torch before it drips down.
Full figure right side. Thanks Simon and Rocco for their suggestion for ways to do the blood splatter effect on the pants.
It's probably still a little bit overdone since the initial few applications doesn't look very good so I kept trying...
On the left side. There are also splatter on the left sleeve (is that the right word?) of the pants, it actually looks perfect on the first attempt... but alas it's covered up by the flag.
Front
Rightside from a lower angle to see his face which I spent 2 weeks painting
BONUS PIC:
You are private Clarke of the 69th Regt. and this is the last thing you saw before being struck unconscious after losing your regiment's king's color to trooper Henry of the 8th Cuirassier.
Hi Vincent
Great to see you back , you’ve been busy on this , I think the effects work well ....perhaps add more weathering/ dirt to the sheepskin
Thanks for sharing the technique on the sword as well
If I may the pics are dark so it’s a little difficult to fully appreciate and see all you’ve done .......perhaps more pics on a lighter background ....post in the Completed forum
Look forward to seeing the next project in V Bench
Happy benchtime
Nap
Great to see you back , you’ve been busy on this , I think the effects work well ....perhaps add more weathering/ dirt to the sheepskin
Thanks for sharing the technique on the sword as well
If I may the pics are dark so it’s a little difficult to fully appreciate and see all you’ve done .......perhaps more pics on a lighter background ....post in the Completed forum
Look forward to seeing the next project in V Bench
Happy benchtime
Nap
Briggsy
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Wow, you took this and created a masterpiece, the blood on the sword is exceptional, fresh arterial blood, awesome. The whole figure is exceptional, i absolutely love it.
Cheers Simon
Cheers Simon
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Hi Vincent,
First what outstanding work, your lack on faith of yourself as a first figure was proved completely wrong, you have produced a beautiful piece..
Of course there will be some that say I have a bit of bias, and it’s true as nothing better than seeing a piece I slaved over lol being enjoyed and actually finished, which is my goal.
My apologies I did not see this thread before, I find I spend longer sculpting, moulding and casting so my apologies.
Absolutely top work and I love the vision painters take on a piece, every piece I produce does have a back story but I do not always explain why I pick the subject.
You are also correct, I think, if he has the colour, there is a reason his sword would not be clean.
My best wishes and again, brilliant work
Gra
ps I have finally got a British with a French flag bust to release
First what outstanding work, your lack on faith of yourself as a first figure was proved completely wrong, you have produced a beautiful piece..
Of course there will be some that say I have a bit of bias, and it’s true as nothing better than seeing a piece I slaved over lol being enjoyed and actually finished, which is my goal.
My apologies I did not see this thread before, I find I spend longer sculpting, moulding and casting so my apologies.
Absolutely top work and I love the vision painters take on a piece, every piece I produce does have a back story but I do not always explain why I pick the subject.
You are also correct, I think, if he has the colour, there is a reason his sword would not be clean.
My best wishes and again, brilliant work
Gra
ps I have finally got a British with a French flag bust to release
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Also, here is the colour we used as reference, I am very grateful for the comments as we often go blind on complex pieces, thank you VERY much!
I will correct these on next moulds
https://ageofrevolution.org/200-object/standard-of-the-69th-regiment-of-foot/
I will correct these on next moulds
https://ageofrevolution.org/200-object/standard-of-the-69th-regiment-of-foot/
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Amazing work - spot on with then fresh blood on the broad sword, I researched blood affects and I think it showed old dried in blood having a red ocre darker red shade.
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