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David - I agree with your views on G&G. I walked out of the cinematic release. Too many fat generals praying in a field. And you can't use the same cast for a prequel made ten years later....disastrous! The Director's Cut on Blu Ray is much better though.

But I can't agree on Gettyburg. There was a lot of battle simulation and any more would have rendered it unwatchable to the general public. The music was inspired. And he was filming a Pulitzer winning book, not doing a documentary.

Colin
 
But I can't agree on Gettyburg. There was a lot of battle simulation and any more would have rendered it unwatchable to the general public. The music was inspired. And he was filming a Pulitzer winning book, not doing a documentary.


Colin; I didn't mean to say that I thought Gettysburg was a bad film, but I did feel that if you didn't know much about the battle, you would come away thinking it only comprised of an initial skirmish, Round Top and Pickett's charge. A Bridge too Far managed to explain the whole strategy 0f that operation and show most of the separate actions that took place; yet it never got too technical or boring. I know Gettysburg was based on a book, but how many the punters going to the the cinema would have known that? What works well in a book doesn't always work as a film. I re-watch bits of Getty and G&G regularly for a quick fix, but I rarely want to watch the whole thing again. as I do with a lot of other films.
By the way, in what way does the Director's cut improve it?
 
Hi David. The Director's Cut Blu Ray adds little.....most of the extra footage is in the Buford segment. Strange the way different people see different films. I thought Bridge too Far sucked. I only watch the drop and Abide With Me segments. Elliott Gould was laughable and Redford, O'Neil and Caan were horrible as well. Oh well :)
 
Or Jesus in full flow? Some nihilists and their marmot?
So many possibilities. Got to be one of my farourites right there.
Quickly! Someone sculpt the dude! Then a white Russian to celebrate.
 
A Bridge Too Far sucked?!!! How very dare you?

It is funny how we all perceive movies - I am one of those that greatly loves ABTF - I think it is a movie that gives good reasons to not go to war. But we all have opinions - (BTW you are not allowed opinions on Britmodeller but that's another story).

Can I add a couple movies to the Civil war list - Glory - I think is an amazing film. I am going to have to watch Gettysburg but it sounds as though it is more an historical retelling as opposed to a movie (by that I mean a movie is for entertainment and not docudrama that will bore a movie goer much as we are all war movie fans), Dances With Wolves is one of my favorite movies for this genre - It tells s good story of Dunbar but also Costner paid homage to John Ford by using the vista's of America.
 
Adrian....if you haven't seen Gettysburg you are in for a treat. For Arnhem, I like Theirs is the Glory. The only actors in Bridge I liked were Connery and Schell, probably because I like them in everything....and they were not really cast to resemble their alter egos. Add Hackman and Fox to the horrible over-acting list. I found bogarde's upper class twit routine trying and Hopkins' shy and introspective Frost unbelievable....there, now I have committed complete heresy :)
 
Thanks Guys, I thought I'd have a quick ten minutes on here before getting on, :(, I've been on this thread alone for the last 2 1/2 hours!!!
Great thread Adrian, I will be back later with volume 1 of the list:LOL:.
Best wishes, Gary.
 
It seems Redford in A Bridge to Far demanded his trainers be dyed brown to look like boots as the real thing hurt his little feety weetys.
 
Thanks Adrian, I forgot about Glory and Dances with Wolves. Both really good movies. You're right about DWW... the scenic shots really give the impression of the vast emptiness of the middle North American plains/prairies. Even today, driving across western Manitoba and Saskatchewan is a mind numbing experience in "When the hell does this end?"
 
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I am not here to berate you over A Bridge Too Far - it is one of the last ensemble cast movies ever made and you are entitled to your opinion - I love Connery in pretty much anything (there are a couple of Turkeys he has made - The Man with the Deadly Lens, League of Extraordinary Gentlemen, Zardoz and The Next Man to name but a few , Schell is always good value for money.

As for Hopkins I really liked his portrayal of Frost - apparently Frost didn't think Hopkins liked him but it was because Hopkins didn't want to copy Frost the elder when he was playing Frost the younger. As for the over the top acting - there were too many egos on set that wouldn't try to upstage each other - but so I gather the same was happening with the generals in Arnhem.

I am seeking out Theirs is the Glory

As for Redfords tootsies being hurt - I have done some extra work and believe me when costume cobble(scuse the pun) together what they have that is authentic if it wasn't made to measure it can hurt! Indeed the boots they gave Peter Cushing in Star Wars hurt so he walked about in Carpet Slippers most of the time.

As a matter of fact Steve McQueen was offered Redford's role first but he declined - bit of a shame because McQueen would have been interesting.

Looking forward to your contribution Gary.

ChaosCossack

As for driving across the Manitoba and Saskatchewan divide - something you probably take for granted but man oh man I'd love to do it - on a Harley as well.
 
OK

I just blitzed Amazon and have about half a dozen movies on their way due to recommendations on this thread.

Incidentally concerning A Bridge Too Far - just pointing out that Elliot Gould and some of the other characters had their "moments" because of artistic licensing that engages the audience - unfortunately movies are made to make money not please purists - I speak from experience and I point to James Bond films - as a Fleming purist - well...

This is very potted and please forgive me but 007 does take up a lot of my data banks...

Connery owns the role - with From Russia with Love and Thunderball closest to Fleming's novels - Dr.No was the blueprint and Goldfinger was the first of the formula Bond films (the best of the formula Bond films as well - the formula is the track that many of the films follow - megalomaniac, gadgets on screen before being used etc.), You Only Live Twice was the first of the silly films with all over the top (pure entertainment), Diamonds Are Forever was Connery's first return and was less plotline and character development and more spectacle - to get bums on seats buying tickets. Never Say Never Again was such a wasted opportunity but Connery made a Roger Moore film instead of making a serious return.

Lazenby made the best film - truly the purist of Fleming's novels.

Roger Moore was the clown - his tongue in cheek style was way off from the Fleming character - he approached the film with w twinkle in his eye a nod and a wink to the audience as we went on a cinematic adventure - probably his most under-rated film was For Your Eyes Only which brought him back from the heady heights of Moonraker. Moonraker is not a "Bond" film - it is entertaining - which sold tickets. For Your Eyes Only was serious and didn't sell tickets so a return to the Roger Moore style came about for Octopussy and A View to a Kill.

Timothy Dalton is the best actor to have played Bond - he was passionate about his craft and took the Bond character from Fleming's pages. Bond is a paid assassin with flaws in his character - Dalton dwelt on this. His two films remain paramount in the purity stakes. Dalton's films had good character development with Dalton remaining somewhat seriousness - he was in many ways too serious and a radical change from Moore.

A six year lawsuit over the video rights stopped any new films and Dalton left the role with MGM breaking his contract because Dalton wouldn't sign for another long contract.

Pierce Brosnan was the great pretender - he is a very shallow actor and was not capable of carrying the films - they relied heavily on spectacle which sold tickets and lots of them - however toward the end with Die Another Day the distributors were not happy with Brosnan as he was not delivering the goods. Bond needed a revamp.

Daniel Craig was as far away from the character as could be imagined - Blonde,short, thuggish - Craig is an excellent actor but he is not Bond. Craig is more SAS sergeant as opposed to RN Commander - he can act and his character development is very good but for a purist he is not Bond - but the box office is doing extremely well...because the films are following current trends and pandering to requirements of the audience right now.

This is a long winded explanation but A Bridge Too Far needed those moments to break up the tension of warfare on screen - Paul Hogan made a TV mini series set in WW1 he and his troop come across a vacant convent and they find the nuns silk underwear which they purloin to wear under their battle dress - a moment that broke the tension - same with Elliot Gould in ABTF and of course the umbrella scene by Digby Tatham Warter (a true moment).

I am not trying to defend the film for you - just pointing out why these moments occurred - particularly back in 1977 when to get bums on seats at a war film when the Viet Nam war had just finished - was a particularly tough time. That is the main reason Star Wars was so popular at the time - the US were licking their wounds over Viet Nam and wanted escapism - ABTF did not do well at the box office.

Sorry if this seems a lecture - movies as well as figures are a passion for me and I do find everyone's postings here very interesting.
 
Adrian. We agree that there really only was one Bond. I would have been worried meeting Connery in a dark alley. I would have been worried meeting Moore as well, but for a much different reason. Worst casting decision EVER. And I agree about Craig. To see him in his natural elemental role, just watch The Trench. Don't worry about lecturing me when I am in your face about my opinions :)

Cheers

Colin
 
I just got an Amazon Theirs is the Glory for just over £1!

Good to know we are on the same page about something!!! Now where did I leave Pussy Galore?
 
Thanks Adrian, here goes:). First I have to say there are times when I don't know why a favourite film is a favourite, besides you can over analyse something to death.......... The only definite crossover point with modelling were the old aurora horror models, in fact, the first thing I ever sculpted was a Boris Karloff Monster in plasticiene. Anyway to get started (and seriously doubting I can keep my list down to 10 per category), the HoRRors:nailbiting:
Dracula Lugosi
Frankenstein Karloff
The Mummy Karloff
Ditto for the Hammer versions, also two of the more unusual ones was Night of the Daemon and Eye of the Devil, no real monsters but supremely creepy which brings us to anything written by Nigel Kneale (and if anyone dares to take on "The Stone Tape", don't watch it at night):nailbiting::nailbiting::wtf:.
Speaking of Nigel Kneale brings me to British Films in General but commedies in particular (BTW, I forgot "Dead of Night" from Horrors). Let's start with
Anything by the marvellous Norman Wisdom, all of the Ealings, the early Carry On's however, in the specific category of British Comedy, there is one stand alone film, a piece so full of malicious road rage, physical brutality, treachery,wild Jazz music and stupendously fast cars that ............. Allright allright it's Genevieve:p. That about rounds this one up apart from the two Tony Hancock movies(y).
The trouble with categories is where do you cross over? I could now go for war or thrillers, so I'll start with War
One great afternoon, in a local fleapit cinema, my Grandma took me to see the wonderful double bill of Reach for the Sky and The Dambusters, now, there are some films that match these two, but for me there will never be any to beat them!!!!!!!!!!
But just to name some of the others:
A Matter of Life and Death
Colonel Blimp
First of the Few (as with some others, particularly for the music).
the Way Ahead
49th Parallel
12 o'clock High
Guadalcanal Diary (I'm not totally parochial)
and of course Battle of Britain (especially the Battle in the Air sequence, again the music)
Tora, Tora, Tora!

Now for the Crime and thrillers. This Category is fairly well sown up by the Americans (there's no arguing with James Cagney, Alan Ladd, Humphrey Bogart and Clint Eastwood and who would dare), but notable among the British are the Yellow Balloon, the Long Arm, Gideon's Day and Father Brown.

Moving on to Westerns......... How do you define them? there are John Wayne's that are Great Westerns and there are John Wayne's that are John Wayne events. The first include Red River, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, the Searchers, fort Apache etc. then there's El Dorado, True Grit and Big Jake etc. John Wayne is a sub-category all by himself(y)
For the rest there are;
How the West Was Won (magnificent and sad at the same time)
Dances with Wolves
the Gunfighter
(another cross over) Paint Your Wagon, my Dad cried with laughter at that one:).
Tombstone
Across the Wide Missouri
and the great Australian western "Quigley Down Under"
Not to forget the contemporary(ish) westerns
Hud and Lonely are the Brave

There are some Musicals in my list:
Oliver
Scrooge
Oh! What a Lovely War
Jesus Christ Superstar
and the HILARIOUS A Funny Thing Happened on the way to the Forum

Now that my typing fingers are worn away to stubs, I'd better wrap up (Yes I know, you wish I had several hours ago:p) But just a few Swashbucklers........ ANYthing Errol Flynn (can anybody believe they had James Cagney down to play Robin Hood?????????)

Anything with an AHHHhaaarrrrrgh Jim Lad in it
Any Shakespear Plays but particularly Olivier's Henry V
Charge of the Light Brigade
A Tale of Two Cities (Bogarde and Coleman)
For love and hate at the same time, Cromwell (love Alec Guiness, hate Richard Harris{charging around nicking everyone else's best lines})
Anything Arthurian.


Doubtless I've missed out many great movies and bored everybody rigid but I will not end without a special mention of Alistair Sim.
Best wishes, Gary.
PS. For obvious reasons Walkabout:whistle:
 
Superb list Gary

Paint Your Wagon is my favorite musical.

Seems we have some mutual favorites. Ealing Comedies do it for me too.

Great stuff

Any more for any more?
 
Lewis Collins mucked it up - he went into the producers and made demands the same as Sean Connery did - well a lot of experience and years had gone by and Cubby Broccoli was not impressed - Collins was a bit short too at 5'10" - he did ok in Who Dares Wins...another favorite in the boys own category.
 
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