Figure Damaged At Euro

[Don]

Its not only at Euro this happens. Good friend who judges at Euro had some figures damaged in the United States when the table they were on collapsed. Plenty of people around and everyone knew what caused it, the table had not been locked properly when the legs extended.
The judges immediately offered paints, glue and anything required to rework the figures that they could still be entered in the competition. I believe the damaged figures did well in the competition but the important point is that the modellers repaired the damaged figures not the judges, although the judges tried to provide everything required for the repair.
Pity the judges in this case had not contacted the owner of the figure before attempting his botched effort.

Don

 

[DEL]

Its not only at Euro this happens. Good friend who judges at Euro had some figures damaged in the United States when the table they were on collapsed. Plenty of people around and everyone knew what caused it, the table had not been locked properly when the legs extended.
The judges immediately offered paints, glue and anything required to rework the figures that they could still be entered in the competition. I believe the damaged figures did well in the competition but the important point is that the modellers repaired the damaged figures not the judges, although the judges tried to provide everything required for the repair.
Pity the judges in this case had not contacted the owner of the figure before attempting his botched effort.

Don

And it was one of the Worlds top modellers who leant on the table and effected the collapse......

 

[Don]

Think it may be time to return the barriers in the competition hall. The indescriminate use of backpacks is a big concern to modellers (except by the people wearing them) at least the barriers would keep the backpacks away from the models!
Saw a chap on the saturday in the upperhall wearing what seemed the biggest rucksack I have ever seen. If he has to go camping with his gear could if not be removed and stored still he left. He may well have done that but I do wonder how many figures and figure boxes he swept away.

Don

 

[Don]

And it was one of the Worlds top modellers who leant on the table and effected the collapse......

Not his fault though Del, the fault was with the table builder. Could just as easy been a table full of top models being judged

Don

 

[DEL]

Not his fault though Del, the fault was with the table builder. Could just as easy been a table full of top models being judged

Don

I know, hence the 'effected' classic 'cause and effect' the cause was faulty assembly but imagine how rotten he felt.
Derek

 

[Carlos69]

Reflecting on my observations witnessed at Euro,I would say a barrier needs to be in place for a start,maybe not as far away as they use to be but some thing needs to be there to stop people getting in too close with dangling camera straps,huge lenses and hands, back packs etc etc .. Back packs and baggage has to be left out the comp room and employ some body to uphold these rules. Some body that will get in and challenge individuals breaking the basic rules ... They could also enforce some ruling that would or could stop any theft by some means ... After all these are works of art as in any gallery and needed to be treated as such.

Love the show but the comp room needs tweaking ...

Carlos

 

[Carlos69]

I'm sure a body or two patrolling for two days down there would cost peanuts anyway !

 

[polyphemus]

If one of the judges made a botched attempt to repair the figure then how competent are they to judge the work of others?

Geoff

 

[brian]

All the reports i've read about Euro this year and last year was like night and day.Although the accident was an unfortunate incident it should have been reported to the owner asap,not try to repair the damage.Lets not go down the road we did pre Euro again as things have improved for the better and i hate to see Euro slagged off again.
These things happen unfortunately(i remember well Phil Kesslings camels head being damaged at the World Expo at Glasgow) They can put barriers up and everybody will whinge that they can't see the figures as well as they would like.Leave the barriers off and you'll get the odd accident,that's life.
The only thing that gets up my nose is these cretins with the backpacks.What's the idea behind that e.g. are they going to pitch tent somewhere,is it for putting the numerous figures they're going to buy or maybe a bit of rock climbing after the show? These aerosols should be barred from the competition room no excuses.I might just pop down next year with my luggage as it amounts to the same thing!!!!!
Lets be positive and stop ,as the Aussies would say,being whinging poms.
I 've vented my spleen and i shall now depart with the great feeling that Euro's back!!! Hallelujah
Brian

 

[Don]

Hey Brian, in your description I am sure you spelt aerosols wrong! Well at least the spelling I have for the idiots!

Don

 

[Blind Pew]

If one of the judges made a botched attempt to repair the figure then how competent are they to judge the work of others?

Geoff

What an astute observation. You said it all.

 

[Blind Pew]

....and doesn't it all come back to the same issue we get year on year, i.e this -

THE VENUE IS TOO SMALL!!

 

[brian]

Hey Brian, in your description I am sure you spelt aerosols wrong! Well at least the spelling I have for the idiots!

Don

I spelt it that way in case i offend by saying arseholes as we all know An aerosol is a suspension of fine solid particles or liquid droplets in a gas
Brian

 

[Alex Long]

Gutted for you Edward. If it was me I would have been fuming, absolutely fuming. To have a figure damaged is bad enough but to be insulted by an attempted cover-up / botched repair job should be the last thing you'd expect from a "premier" model competition.

Alex.

 

[Helm]

I spelt it that way in case i offend by saying arseholes as we all know An aerosol is a suspension of fine solid particles or liquid droplets in a gas
Brian

Really ? I thought it was the tins Primer and Deodorant comes in

 

[mash3d]

Unfortunately the Euro organisers rely heavily on volunteers to steward, photograph, layout the hall, etc, etc. As the show is now run by an organisation for profit the prospect of them hiring security or glass cabinets for the event I imagine is pretty well zero. Remember that events like Girona receive a heavy subsidy from the local tourist board, I very much doubt that this is true at Folkestone. From my days of exhibiting at the NEC I can tell you that cabinet hire for the event would be in the region of £250+ per cabinet. I notice that they do have a couple of cabinets for the Judges display. BOS etc so they will be well aware of the costs. One negative of using cabinets is the reflection making photography difficult.
My own view is that they should ban photography, photograph each exhibit and sell a DVD/CD of the pictures with the magazine later in the year.

Keith

It may be a bit of a pain to manage but if each entry was Photographed, or videoed at HD resolution, on a turntable upon entry it would serve two purposes.
One as a entry catalog and also if people knew there would be a good quality DVD they could order at the show they wouldn't need to take so many photos. Quite frankly no matter how hard you try the photos end up sucking because of the the lighting in the display room. Overhead Florescent lights are not kind to photography.
I think people that could not attend the show would pay for such a DVD and it would also serve as a reference for others.

 

[Figure Mad]

This does happen at all the other shows at some point in time. Two years in a row, I have had a model broken at an US show, I haven’t complained, no barriers no problem, thats modelling, the models are delicate, they will get broken at some point. With Edwards, the problem was really not that it got broken, it was the fact that someone decided to try and fix it without telling him. That should not have been the case.

 

[abbo]

Really ? I thought it was the tins Primer and Deodorant comes in

I think the words Deodorant and Euro is a whole new discussion in its own right.

 

[Pops]

Are these venues not insured for liability? Or the promoters for that matter? I'm in two minds whether to submit (for the first time) at Telford in Novemeber now...
By the way, anybody else attending or planning to compete at the IPMS show next month?

 

[JonP]

"Are these venues not insured for liability? Or the promoters for that matter? I'm in two minds whether to submit (for the first time) at Telford in Novemeber now..."

I think you will find that most competitions are entered at your own risk. If the organisers had to get insurance to cover the competition as well as the existing insurance for public liability and the like then they probably wouldn't be able to afford to run the show. There is always a risk associated with taking your models out of your house and I wouldn't let a few instances of models being damaged at shows stop you from entering competitions. After all the hard work you have put in you should show it off to other people
"By the way, anybody else attending or planning to compete at the IPMS show next month?"

I'm going to be here for the weekend with the Sphere stand if you fancy dropping by.